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Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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Re: Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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We can't afford healthcare for our people.

I don't have any knowledge one way or another, but is this true? I guess it seems like we can afford healthcare just fine, but allocating money to healthcare/education/etc is a different problem.

We can but we don't want to. It's even worse.

Re: Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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Quick reminder: Non US citizens only go to conferences outside the US. There is no excuse we should put up with this. Canada and EU are much better locations for this reason alone.

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> their a basic and necessary element of free societies

"They're"?

> It used to take months, weeks, or at least days.

Sure. Many things were different in the past. For example: hysterical and paranoid border patrol personnel didn't use to be the norm.

Re: Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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Not much better in Canada: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/guilty-plea-ends-case-t...

And also Australia and the UK: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-08/if-a-border-agent-dem... https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/25/traveler-who-refused-to-gi... It seems to be mostly a Five Eyes thing.

It scares me the number of people who think that the US is in some uniquely bad place for some issue, not because of "whataboutism" but because of the blindness it can entail and skewed perceptions of all sides. No, it's not a dystopia in the US, but a wonderland paradise everywhere else. There's plenty of places that treat various people badly.

Re: Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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"...he clammed up, taking the Fifth, and citing constitutional rights against unwarranted searches. ...border agents told him he had no constitutional nor any legal protections, and threatened him with criminal charges should he not concede to the search. ...he was eventually allowed to leave with his belongings, the devices still locked, and no charges were pressed." My goodness! I guess those protections did exit a…

Border agents may lie about your rights? Is there no Miranda equivalent for this type of detainment?

The border agents are in fact correct. The Supreme court has ruled that US citizens have no constitutional protections against search and seizure or basically anything else on the border of the US: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

Also police are allowed to lie about anything they want during interrogations.

Re: Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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Traveling internationally with encrypted data you don't want to disclose to border officials is not a good plan these days. Much safer to transfer securely via network connection. It's easy to single out the US but the reality is that most countries have pretty far reaching rules these days. E.g. the UK and Australia are hardly any safer. And forget about China, Russia, or indeed most countries with even less democra…

Interestingly, Russia doesn't do this at all, at least for now.

Maybe they do lead pipe crypto analysis or make an offer you cannot refuse?

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"...he clammed up, taking the Fifth, and citing constitutional rights against unwarranted searches. ...border agents told him he had no constitutional nor any legal protections, and threatened him with criminal charges should he not concede to the search. ...he was eventually allowed to leave with his belongings, the devices still locked, and no charges were pressed." My goodness! I guess those protections did exit a…

Friendly reminder that the amendment after the first amendment is for correcting this sort of tyrannical behavior by the government whether it likes it or not.

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The other thing to consider is that a burner phone will look quite suspicious.

Say that you take a burner when traveling abroad because you don't trust foreign governments to accord you the same civil rights protections against unreasonable searches that the United States does.

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So you are saying that USA should have started WW3 immediately after WW2?

Oh, I'm not taking issue with the US's behavior. I'm just taking issue with people who use it to argue that the US is the bestest country evar. If it really were, it would have been able to defeat the USSR soundly with its superior military technology. It's perfectly fine to admit the US is a mediocre large country, absolutely worth living in, but not some singular shining glory. It's perfectly fine to admit the US i…

Also the US has never met Russia in an overt war. Not that I ever want them to either but your point is again invalid. There is a reason US pulls it's weight in diplomacy and military and currency are two big factors for this. Denying this is just you being delusional. Also US , barring the current govt., has always been very welcoming to immigrants. Every country has flaws but this country gave me and countless others an opportunity and a voice. That alone separates the US from many other countries.

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What if I don’t support or defend the Second Amendment? Does that make me unamerican? Should I renounce my citizenship?

Did you swear an oath to uphold the constitution? If so, it is your duty to allow others to exercise their 2nd amendment rights.

No.

Re: Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops

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Quick reminder: US citizens have an absolute right to reenter the country. Customs can temporarily detain you, but they cannot refuse entry. Any threat, whether implied or stated, that they will hold you until you unlock your device is not real. They can hold your stuff indefinitely, so be prepared to lose it if you go this route, but never unlock your device based on the idea that it’s the only way to go free. Non-c…

> They can hold your stuff indefinitely, so be prepared to lose it if you go this route, but never unlock your device based on the idea that it’s the only way to go free.

Wonder if you can sue them after for your property back.

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