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French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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I'm not sure whether you are being sarcastic. Don't you think they would cooperate just fine if it would make business sense for them?

They don't have to cooperate. As in the title, only the ISP DNS enforce this.

They can themselves be blocked.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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At that point it would be better to roll your own and use ports 22 or 443.

This is what I’m doing. Linode box.

Probably it's worth not blocking you for that, just add you to a list as a person of interest.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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I'm slightly baffled by the difference, though, as some other laws are not enforced. For instance, the case where directors of a tyre manufacturer were forcibly taken hostage and physically abused by the workers. Normally, you'd send in the police, arrest hostage-takers and give them long imprisonment.

Yes, that was appalling. I guess the directors were expecting the SWAT/GIGN to come, but hours passed and they had to sign documents, and the signature was deemed valid. I don’t even know if the directors were fed or could gonto the bathrooms during that hostage situation. Torture at its best.

You don't have to look very hard to find better examples of "torture" than being kept for a whole day within an office (with access to the bathrooms obviously, nobody was forced to pee in their pants).

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Western countries are becoming increasingly like China and Russia. UK, Australia, Germany, Canada, France, Germany, New Zealand... So far, only the US still holds some resemblance to “protecting the freedom of speech” — sure, copyright violators are pursued, but at least nobody is trying to censor the Internet... yet.

Upholding copyrights in court seems the basis of the rule of Law, and quite far from the situation in China and Russia. Living in a 'free' country' does not mean being able to flaunt the law, especially in this case what those sites do is hardly defensible. > the French court ruled that the two sites “clearly claim to be pirate platforms rejecting the principle of copyright and bypassing publishers’ subscription acce…

The difference is the ability of the government to pass arbitrary laws. There are (currently, in the West) two opposing views: natural law (laws are the refinement of what already is a natural part of human aspirations), and consensus law (law is what social consensus agrees upon). There’s also authoritarian law, but that is dictatorship.

Of these possibilities, only natural law can command respect. Society can be irrational and pass arbitrary laws for longer than you can stay sane, and dictatorship is, well, dictatorship.

The US constitution and the bill of rights are explicitly based on the idea of natural law.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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I guess because it's the law, and governments are supposed to enforce the law.

I'm slightly baffled by the difference, though, as some other laws are not enforced. For instance, the case where directors of a tyre manufacturer were forcibly taken hostage and physically abused by the workers. Normally, you'd send in the police, arrest hostage-takers and give them long imprisonment.

You're implying that the hostage takers where not arrested or given imprisonment, but in the case of the Goodyear employees they were arrested and sentenced to 24 months imprisonment (15 months suspended).

That's what the victim party had asked for too, so I don't understand what problem there is with this judgment?

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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The "this is what they wanted" argument is always something that rings alarm bells in my head; it sounds like the "it's a slippery slope" wolf in sheep's clothing.

You hear it a lot, but in this case he pretty much outlined it in his manifesto.

Why are you taking his word at face value? What he really wants is to spread his propaganda. He is just trying to use reverse psychology to make you do just that.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also,…

DNS is hard coded on my Orange Livebox. This is new.

And changing the DNS under my Ubuntu box was far from trivial. It is only possible to change the secondary DNS in the connection UI. I had to use a reduced version of DHCP (IP address only) and change /etc/resolv.conf.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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You can typically get any paper your university library has a subscription to via the libraries online portal or if you are in the university network already at the undergraduate and masters level. If some journal is not available at the library you can request an interlibrary „loan“ which just means that someone at another library will copy the article and send it to you, typically for free.

I know a lot of researchers and they can access maybe 90% of the papers they want through subscriptions and for the rest the likely use Sci-hub. (I have never heard anyone in research who thinks that pay walled journals is a good thing.)

As an researcher I typically only encounter a paywall when I‘m not logged into my institutes VPN. In the rare cases I want to read something the university is not subscribed to, Scihub is indeed a good solution. Open access just moves the cost of publishing to research groups and disincentives proper peer review, because the journal’s revernue is tied to how many paper it publishes. See for example the 15+ Frontiers in ... Journals, which are just barely not predatory and basically publish anything with a pulse. A mix of preprint severs like arxiv and (much later) journal publication seem like a good compromise.
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