China warned others not to attend UN meeting on Xinjiang human rights violations

So you say.

But I've heard even vaguely liberal Chinese argue differently. And seriously, have you actually read Confucius? Or the Yi Jing? Concepts like social benefit trumping individual freedom, and respect for authority, go back a long way.

Fascism and Communism are relatively modern European inventions. Even Chinese Communism, at its peak, was never anything like what Marx and Engels imagined. Although they talked about social evolution, they were fundamentally operating in the context of individual freedom.

I keep on seeing this opinion that if China doesn't grow at 8%+ rate, there'll be a revolution. Where does this idea come from?

China went through not just minimal growth, but policies that killed tens of millions in the 1950-70s. I think the CCP is going to be very stable, and the current technological surveillance infrastructure has only strengthened it.

Obviously nobody cares about right or wrong. The average westerners only want to accuse China so they can feel good about themselves for a while, and their leaders only want to secure world domination.

Look at some of the comments here, people have no idea what they are talking about. Seriously? A civil war is good in his/her book? How many people do you think is going to die? And would the US and the Europe happily accept Chinese refugees? It is fine for millions of people from other parts of the world to die, billions to suffer, as long as it is for western values. Just look at the Middle East.

Also, an unbaised standard does not exist when it comes to international affairs. Do you think the billions of poor people in India are enjoying their lives? How come the west always focus fire on the Chinese when they talk about human right issues? Have you heard of the caste system?

About culture, as a Chinese living in the US, many Americans have asked me whether I eat dogs, or do I have microwaves/tap water back in China. Do you think they will change their minds even if I try my best to explain my experience to them? Americans want culture diversity as much as kids want to visit a zoo: lol look at these barbarians, now let's go back to our modern, superior way of life.

Edit: People read several biased articles online and think they know everything about China, because why would the media lie? We obviously do not need to set foot on this huge country to see it for ourselves, a few news reports are all we need.

What is happening in Xinjiang is terrible, but let's be more specific. What's happening is a more intense version of 'reverse genocide' and NOT ethnic cleansing (which is what a generic label of 'genocide' implies). What's reverse genocide? It's when you when you proactively encourage assimilation by intermarriage with Han Chinese (where the family will become Han in culture & treatment by Chinese society) and through the encouragement of mass migration of Han Chinese. This is what has happened with both Mongolia and Tibet and it's worked. When that doesn't work or is too slow, what you get is what's happening in Xinjiang where people are either 'assisted' to assimilate with the help of Han babysitters, or put in brainwashing camps which echoes the Cultural Revolution. As horrific as it all is, it still not as terrible as past campaigns of trying to achieve some form of "genetic purity" that's happened in other countries outside of China.

> I'm not sure what can be done when a country

What are you willing to personally give up? Are you willing to pay more for trinkets and electronics? e.g. A very conservative estimate would probably add another $100 to the price of an iPhone. See a similar increase across many if not most products. Are you willing for our economy to take a hit (i.e. financial instability, temporary job losses, ...)?

As much as I dislike and disagree with Trump & his policies, I may disagree with his execution of confronting China, but not with its general idea.

I suggest you should read up on the far more recent case of Fred Hampton and COINTELPRO regarding US "protection of dissent". American institutions protect the status quo and allow "safe" dissent (meaning bounded (e.g. NY Times) or ineffective (tiny groups / grandpa screaming) dissent). However, free speech is treated more seriously here than most other places and times in history, that is true and good.

https://www.zinnedproject.org/materials/assassination-of-fre...

That said, what is being done to the Uyghur people in China is vile and is contradictory to established human rights. It is completely appropriate to take China to task at the UN. However, as US citizens, it is difficult for us to have a strong moral voice given the wars, assassinations, coups, and destructive sanctions we have initiated along with our history of indigenous genocide, colonialism, and slavery that we have still not fully reckoned with. Even now we are implementing a slightly different version of the Japanese internment camps for the most vulnerable people in our society, undocumented immigrants, to distract from the economic depredations of the ruling class.

If we want to be a more effective and just nation, we have a lot of work to do at home.