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Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

He's utterly clueless. Having two identities can save your life if you're a battered woman. Or of the wrong political persuasion in some countries. I'm ok not 'liking' Zuckerberg's idea of integrity.

One of the first things we were told in HS psyc, was that people had multiple roles, and in different contexts they behaved differently.

That isn't dishonest, that is behaving according to the role given.

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I see him as among a group of people who believe that financial success gives them both the credibility and authority to dictate the rules of society. It is a deeply troubling mindset that goes beyond just being 'out of touch'.

Watch out you are treading perilously close to one of the "things you can't say"[1] in the context of this site. Some people block people on twitter for implying just this sort of thing... 1. http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's utterly clueless. Having two identities can save your life if you're a battered woman. Or of the wrong political persuasion in some countries. I'm ok not 'liking' Zuckerberg's idea of integrity.

He cares more that his advertising database is accurate

You still believe it’s for advertising?

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By now it's pretty clear, to me at least, that Zuckerberg simply doesn't get it. He could have fixed the issues for over a decade. And even in 2019, after all the evidence of mismanagement and public distrust, he still refuses to relinquish any control of the company. This is a tone-deaf opinion piece. I'd argue as far back as 2010 that indiscriminately selling user data was a bad idea especially when you are the sol…

"...indiscriminately selling user data..." That has never been Facebook's business model. The Hacker News crowd is smart enough to discuss these sorts of topics without dumbing down and misrepresenting the facts. Facebook indiscriminately sells ads. In the past they also indiscriminately gave third parties access to user data. Doing that let them grow their market share and helped their primary business, but is not h…

They are in the business of capturing and influencing behavior. Selling ads is one way of doing that. There are others.

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The guy who broke every single rule in his ruthless conquest of the internet is now asking for new rules. You have to admire the sheer audacity of this play. It does make sense though. He can finally see the tide of public opinion turning against him. Facebook's business metrics will be fine for a while but the pace at which they are losing people's trust is increasing. He needed to make a grand statement now while t…

Another point to consider is that the more the internet is regulated, the more difficult it is for new entrants to compete , as they have to comply first with existing laws. This is an easy way for incumbents to protect themselves from potentially swift-footed competitors.

Not necessarily, it depends on the type of regulation. Regulation enforcing net neutrality, and regulation to combat anti-competitive behaviour, are both examples that enable new entrants.

For a good example, look at the history of BTs enforced breakup in the UK.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

He's utterly clueless. Having two identities can save your life if you're a battered woman. Or of the wrong political persuasion in some countries. I'm ok not 'liking' Zuckerberg's idea of integrity.

Or the wrong religion, or none, or an apostate, or gay, or...

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The four points being: * harmful content * election integrity * privacy * data portability I think Zuckerberg's intent is to dilute the real issue (privacy) with these other three points. FB has a bad record when it comes to privacy and they are actively taking measures against it. For example, they lobby against privacy laws [1]. They create shadow profiles and they make it difficult or impossible to delete your acc…

> data portability Making the friend/family graph portable would allow others to compete with Facebook. What's the state of the discussion on how to do this sensibly?

Obviously, that data is not your data. You can pull out your own posts, photos, maybe replies. Because you made that, but al that context isn't yours, so FB won't let you take it out. Heck, it might even be a copyright violation.

The fact that this defends FBs position is just a coincidence...

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