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So you want your app/website to work in China

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Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#101

I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…

the internet will become impossible to censor (for everyone - it’s already easy for the rich to avoid censorship) when satellite connections become cheaper / faster / more accessible

the problem isn't tech - its people.

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#103

I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…

>It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve this repressive state.

To be honest it is not our place to tell the Chinese people how to govern themselves, that is for them to figure out.

I don't see how we're 'serving' China. The US is already in an open trade war with the country, and many other regions are growing weary, but it is not up to us to interfere in the country's internal affairs.

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

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post #101

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the internet will become impossible to censor (for everyone - it’s already easy for the rich to avoid censorship) when satellite connections become cheaper / faster / more accessible

the problem isn't tech - its people.

tech solves everything permanently.

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#105

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> suppress freedom of speech, and journalism, ... We've lost the right to complain about Chinese censorship. We actually owe the Chinese an apology for criticizing them. They've clearly been vindicated for the 21st century. When New Zealand and Australia blocked some of the most popular websites on the Internet at the backbone, I think that was the last straw for the west making any claims to having the moral high gr…

I was afraid that my comment will turn into USA vs. China. or _____ vs. China. That is all we do here on HN. Every single time anyone criticizes China, there is a preposterous tendency to "soften" the criticism by showing examples of other countries doing one or two things - pick and choose your favorite thing. I am honestly frustrated with openly criticizing a regime, doesn't matter who, without resorting to compari…

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Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#106

I'm really confused. I have a fairly international website geared towards English language learners, with Google Analytics and AdSense and links to share on Facebook, hosted on Digital Ocean here in NYC... and, without designing for it, China has been my #1 source of traffic and revenue for many years now, simply because they're the #1 largest population of English language learners. It seems to be working fine. I me…

Don't get confused, the gov blocks websites with a clear purpose and your English learning website definitely is not on their blocking list.

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

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No it's not an intranet. Chinese people still connect to the internet. They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network). Sounds like you need educating on the differences.

>> China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet. > They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network). I kinda think you just made his point fo…

Oh god first line of Wikipedia reads: 'An intranet is a private network accessible only to an organization's staff.'

Please tell me how www.baidu.com is only accessible within China.

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#108
post #68

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No it's not an intranet. Chinese people still connect to the internet. They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network). Sounds like you need educating on the differences.

Please don’t equate mass state surveillance and censorship with blocking Xtube from the office.

My point was addressing that he was incorrect about what an 'intranet' is. Read between the lines.

You're right that they do mass state surveillance though.

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#109

I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…

Please don't post political/national rants to HN. They are all the same, making them tedious, and they lead to flamewars, which produce even-less-interesting scorched earth. None of this serves intellectual curiosity, which is what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: So you want your app/website to work in China

#110

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> suppress freedom of speech, and journalism, ... We've lost the right to complain about Chinese censorship. We actually owe the Chinese an apology for criticizing them. They've clearly been vindicated for the 21st century. When New Zealand and Australia blocked some of the most popular websites on the Internet at the backbone, I think that was the last straw for the west making any claims to having the moral high gr…

I was afraid that my comment will turn into USA vs. China. or _____ vs. China. That is all we do here on HN. Every single time anyone criticizes China, there is a preposterous tendency to "soften" the criticism by showing examples of other countries doing one or two things - pick and choose your favorite thing. I am honestly frustrated with openly criticizing a regime, doesn't matter who, without resorting to compari…

Your flamebait comment upthread inaugurated this directly. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19459981 and don't do this on HN.
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