Shame the entire thread turned into a anti china beatup.
HN is going down the same path slashdot did. Rather than informative posts it is filled with opinionated speech likely from bot accounts.
So you want your app/website to work in China
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#72I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…
And making your app/website work in China is gonna change any of this how?
Not making your app or website work in China, or actively preventing it from work in China, is not gonna change any of this either.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet.
No it's not an intranet. Chinese people still connect to the internet. They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network). Sounds like you need educating on the differences.
They have a firewall so strict that it blocks almost the totality of non-Chinese content, they don't have internet access. What they suggest on this article are hacks which might work if you are lucky, the CCP is blocking more and more every year so don't expect any of these hacks to work for long.
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#75Shame the entire thread turned into a anti china beatup. HN is going down the same path slashdot did. Rather than informative posts it is filled with opinionated speech likely from bot accounts.
you're greatly underestimating the number of opinionated HNers there are if you think the number of comments can only be explained by bots :-P
and also, 6/4/1989 you bootlicker
Re: So you want your app/website to work in China
#76I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…
I agree, but my first impression was that you were talking about the US! I live in Iran and many sites are simply blocked for all people here because of sanctions. I know there are reasons and such for these sanctions, but as you said people are the same and not all those reasons might be valid. Anyways, blocked sites here include many programming resources including Java, Go and Android, many services like Slack, and even lots of sites hosted on GCP.
Also for most of people here, "unimpeachable, unchallenged leader" resembles Trump who cancelled agreements like JCOPA or Bush who atacked our neighbour countries. I'm not arguing that any of those actions are right or wrong, but many people are badly affected by the US more than they are affected by any dictator.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> suppress freedom of speech, and journalism, ... We've lost the right to complain about Chinese censorship. We actually owe the Chinese an apology for criticizing them. They've clearly been vindicated for the 21st century. When New Zealand and Australia blocked some of the most popular websites on the Internet at the backbone, I think that was the last straw for the west making any claims to having the moral high gr…
I was afraid that my comment will turn into USA vs. China. or _____ vs. China. That is all we do here on HN. Every single time anyone criticizes China, there is a preposterous tendency to "soften" the criticism by showing examples of other countries doing one or two things - pick and choose your favorite thing. I am honestly frustrated with openly criticizing a regime, doesn't matter who, without resorting to compari…
Check the comment history for people who post “whatabout” comments when people criticize China. Some accounts do it a lot, on many comments/posts critical of China.
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#78I'm really confused. I have a fairly international website geared towards English language learners, with Google Analytics and AdSense and links to share on Facebook, hosted on Digital Ocean here in NYC... and, without designing for it, China has been my #1 source of traffic and revenue for many years now, simply because they're the #1 largest population of English language learners. It seems to be working fine. I me…
If your website doesn't use anything that's being actively blocked by the firewall (e.g. Google CDN), it is most likely usable in China, although it'd be quite slow.
I browse tons of foreign websites when I grew up in China. It's actually not a big issue if the website doesn't serve video.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
China just has a local Intranet and when you are lucky (and increasingly luckier every year) you can access some small websites on the Internet.
No it's not an intranet. Chinese people still connect to the internet. They've got a firewall around their whole country, not unlike any firewall a corporation might put up to prevent their employees from accessing content the company disagrees with (like viewing pornography/4chan from the network). Sounds like you need educating on the differences.
Please don’t equate mass state surveillance and censorship with blocking Xtube from the office.
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#80I don't want to live in a world where the next superpower blocks websites as they suit them, suppress freedom of speech and journalism, exploit prisoners, religious segregation camps, employing social dystopian systems and is led by unimpeachable, unchallenged leader who has elected himself with a 1000-0 vote as perpetual president of the country. It is sad to see that the rest of the world has to bend down to serve…
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