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I believe terrorizing the population into compliance is the point. I don't think you have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that.
This puts the terrorist and the government firmly on the same side. Wasn't that the terrorists intention all along?
Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills
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Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills
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#83"During active shooter drill, four teachers at a time were taken into a room, told to crouch down and were shot execution style with some sort of projectiles - resulting in injuries to the extent that welts appeared, and blood was drawn. ... The Indiana State Teachers Association is lobbying lawmakers to add language prohibiting teachers from being shot with any sort of ammunition to a school safety bill working its…
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There are licensing requirements with continuous daily background checks. The results speak for themselves. California has pretty much this, and in implementation is much stricter than Canada. The result? There are mass shootings here as well as lots of urban gun violence. New Zealand already has stricter gun laws than many places in the US. Throwing up your hands and saying it’ll never work without trying it is tant…
>>> California. It’s much easier to bring in illicit firearms across unmonitored state lines than national boundaries. >>> I'd rather have individual rights and armed guards in the schools and places of worship. Horrifying. So taking away everyone’s right to feel safe and secure? Wonderful. And to be alive. That’s the problem, life is always trade offs. I don’t feel comfortable with everyone armed, that infringed on…
Latin America has many countries with restrictive gun control and widespread gun crime. Brazil and Mexico have actually relaxed gun control so people can defend themselves[1,2]
But even if your claim were true, who cares if gun crime goes down if overall murder and crime rates don't? Are people better off if killed or mugged with other weapons?
1: https://theglobalobservatory.org/2019/02/brazil-most-homicid...
2: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexicos-vigilantes-legalized-an...
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Martial arts are pretty useless when some nut has an assault rifle and other firearms at hand. This isn't a Hollywood movie.
A Hollywood caricature of martial arts might be useless. But my understanding of some martial arts is that they emphasize keeping a cool head, awareness of surroundings, deescalation and evasion over violent confrontation. Being even somewhat competent in those skills could prove valuable in an active shooter situation.
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The training is fairly reasonable for someone who has a reasonable expectation of engaging in combat. You need to drill reactions under duress until you stop thinking and just do what you've drilled instinctively. The problem is that that this is not a reasonable expectation for school teachers. They shouldn't and don't really have a statistically significant chance of seeing combat. They're also a population that st…
If you read the article it sounds like they just put them up against a wall and shot them in the back. It doesn't sound like training, it sounds more like punishment or hazing.
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>>> California. It’s much easier to bring in illicit firearms across unmonitored state lines than national boundaries. >>> I'd rather have individual rights and armed guards in the schools and places of worship. Horrifying. So taking away everyone’s right to feel safe and secure? Wonderful. And to be alive. That’s the problem, life is always trade offs. I don’t feel comfortable with everyone armed, that infringed on…
> Any other country that took away guns, gun crime went down, that’s facts. Latin America has many countries with restrictive gun control and widespread gun crime. Brazil and Mexico have actually relaxed gun control so people can defend themselves[1,2] But even if your claim were true, who cares if gun crime goes down if overall murder and crime rates don't? Are people better off if killed or mugged with other weapon…
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The training is fairly reasonable for someone who has a reasonable expectation of engaging in combat. You need to drill reactions under duress until you stop thinking and just do what you've drilled instinctively. The problem is that that this is not a reasonable expectation for school teachers. They shouldn't and don't really have a statistically significant chance of seeing combat. They're also a population that st…
If you read the article it sounds like they just put them up against a wall and shot them in the back. It doesn't sound like training, it sounds more like punishment or hazing.
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> Any other country that took away guns, gun crime went down, that’s facts. Latin America has many countries with restrictive gun control and widespread gun crime. Brazil and Mexico have actually relaxed gun control so people can defend themselves[1,2] But even if your claim were true, who cares if gun crime goes down if overall murder and crime rates don't? Are people better off if killed or mugged with other weapon…
Brazil and Mexico are on the way to becoming failed states. If America moves towards a Mad Max future you can have your gun back. Until then, let's leave the shooting to the people trained to do so instead of literally anyone who wants to shoot. All the experts I've seen interviewed say people think they'll be awesome in a high-pressure situation like a shooting but unless they're actually trained specifically for it…
By all means, ban guns in New York and San Francisco if that's what the people of those cities want, but don't impose your needs on people who live completely different lives.
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Brazil and Mexico are on the way to becoming failed states. If America moves towards a Mad Max future you can have your gun back. Until then, let's leave the shooting to the people trained to do so instead of literally anyone who wants to shoot. All the experts I've seen interviewed say people think they'll be awesome in a high-pressure situation like a shooting but unless they're actually trained specifically for it…
There are places in America that aren't much better than Brazil or Mexico. There are other places in America where help is hours away and defending yourself is the only option. And places where hunting is still a means of feeding families, as well as the primary method of managing animal populations. By all means, ban guns in New York and San Francisco if that's what the people of those cities want, but don't impose…
I'd also suggest your opinions about America are pretty divorced from the realities on the ground.