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Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by dang »

fromthestart wrote: post #120
novacole wrote: post #109

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Putting people in Zoos is a good thing? It dehumanizes Europeans to say that it is sick to put people in Zoos? Also, I never said anything about white people. I was talking specifically about the Western Europeans who put people in Zoos. I think your comment perfectly illustrates the lengths people will go to and the ways in which they will contort their minds in order to uphold an strange idea that is dear to their…

>I think your comment perfectly illustrates the lengths people will go to and the ways in which they will contort their minds in order to uphold an strange idea that is dear to their hearts, however Ironic that I was pointing out that you're doing exactly this. >Putting people in Zoos is a good thing? It dehumanizes Europeans to say that it is sick to put people in Zoos? Are you even going to attempt to argue in good…

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Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by dang »

altern8 wrote: post #111
fromthestart wrote: post #103

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>who convinced themselves of African inferiority for the purpose of justifying their theft, rape, and murder of those people The Africans they encountered had virtually no technology and no government, and looked like different creatures. It wasn't something that required rationalization. There's far less malice in this than you'd like to see. As far as I am aware, there is no credible evidence that Egyptians strongl…

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Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by exolymph »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #40

The computer geniuses here at Hacker News have decided the main argument of this article are wrong. But among archaeologists ritual defacement is understood to be a regular thing that happens to art all over the world. Roman coins defaced: https://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Defacing-the-past-damnation-a... Teotihuacan icons demolished and destroyed by fire: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/sep/24/teotihu...

Downvoted purely for the snark. It's irritating when an active participant in a website puts down the community that... they choose to be part of.

Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by freshm087 »

rodionos wrote: post #128

Not having a nose is ok compared to having a half of the head attached from another sculpture. This was the case in imperial Rome when the sculptors had to quickly retrofit works in progress to fit the new emperor. In some periods you had three emperors succeed each other, most certainly involuntarily, within a period of three years.

You don't need to go that far back in time, changing statues heads was a thing in USSR.

Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by danans »

kharms wrote: post #126
novacole wrote: post #51

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> the surviving representations of noses in statuary don't look particularly "black" I think this says the exact opposite of what you want it to say. The fact that they survived, may be that they were sufficiently non-"black" looking to leave them alone. Phenotypes come in ranges especially for black people, so a "black" nose is anything from the nose of a random Scandinavian to that of a Sudanese persons.

I read that as saying the nose holes on the broken statues don't look "black."

I meant that statues from Ancient Egypt with intact noses don't look particularly "black" (with all my previous qualifications on the use of that term). They don't look particularly "white" (same qualifications) to me either, they just look ... Egyptian.

Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by Simulacra »

"“The damaged part of the body is no longer able to do its job,” Bleiberg explained. Without a nose, the statue-spirit ceases to breathe, so that the vandal is effectively “killing” it. To hammer the ears off a statue of a god would make it unable to hear a prayer. In statues intended to show human beings making offerings to gods, the left arm—most commonly used to make offerings—is cut off so the statue’s function can’t be performed (the right hand is often found axed in statues receiving offerings)."

Re: Why Do So Many Egyptian Statues Have Broken Noses?

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Post by adavis321 »

tP5n wrote: post #118
cwmma wrote: post #58

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she was Greek though so probably not a great example

she was born in alexandria, north africa, as daughter to the ruling pharaoh of the ptomelaic kingdom in egypt.

Yes, and the Ptolemaic Kingdom was a Greek kingdom founded by Ptolemy I Soter, a companion and historian of Alexander the Great. He started the kingdom after the death of Alexander.

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Post by atomical »

sbov wrote: post #119
gameswithgo wrote: post #80

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Like all "smart" professions, the practitioners tend to think their smart extends beyond their domain of expertise. It doesn't.

I find most "smart" professionals I interact with are people, mostly like other people. The internet is different of course, but if you're painting people with a broad brush based upon internet interactions, there are bigger problems than "smart" professionals saying dumb things.

It's a generality and it's useful for describing a group of people.
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