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It's cheap in NorCal - my friend had a Model 3 delivered by a dude. Literally. A dude drove his car to his house and then called Uber. P.S. by "dude" I meant that the man just drove the car to the owner's place from their Fremont factory (30 min).
How else would you deliver a car? Not sure what point you're trying to make?
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Why would those people buy one though? The parent's comment was that people who purchase the car are unlikely to want to return it after driving it. They were not saying, everyone who drives one will want to buy one.
Because now you can't drive one without buying it first.
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I don't think anyone will actually buy $35k model. They made it so undesirable that it's almost laughable. Reminds me of 2004 Honda Accord DX model with $16995 with roll-up manual windows, plastic hub caps and manual tranny that hardly anyone bought. Most will opt for $40k premium model. Though 37k is much better value, it's missing the core features that tickle fancy of Tesla buyers. Standard Interior Includes: Manu…
I drove a couple of Hondas like that, and I kind of liked them. Ever try replacing a window motor? :)
Two of those I don't care about, and the manual transmission is a big win for me, so yeah, I'm with you.
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That’s a law.
"This is 2019," he said. "People want to buy things online." But he added that franchise-dealer opposition would be a violation of interstate commerce, and that is unconstitutional. "Good luck with that," Musk said. Sounds like Musk likes to pick and choose the laws he follows. Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-is-eliminating-most-of...
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Always something negative when it comes to Tesla. They finally delivered on their promise of a $35k model 3, which is a monumental achievement, and yet the top comment is about the website. Haven't seen the desktop site, but on mobile the full price of $35k is clearly visible.
Monumental achievement like the $36.6K Chevy Volt https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev-electric-car (with longer range than Model 3)
You linked to the Bolt-with-a-b, but said Chevy Volt-with-a-v.
Certainly the Bolt is comparable to the Model 3; the Volt not so much.
Unwinding an auto loan, getting back your traded-in vehicle, etc. All of this seems non-trivial to me.
Carvana does the same thing (in fact: they already are doing the whole "buy the car online, return if you don't like it, we deliver to your house" model).
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Cars have always had delivery fees. Delivering something that weighs several tons is not cheap.
It's cheaper to Tesla if they "deliver" it at their factory. I took delivery of my Tesla at the Fremont factory. was still forced to pay full delivery fee. insane.
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Yup, I was spending $400/mo on gas which is now close to $50/mo before you figure in oil change costs. Quite a few cars/trucks run synthetic these days which can really start adding up.
Not really. Oil changes (in a car comparable in size to Model 3) cost me about 50 USD per 25000 km, or 15000 mi, indeed because the oil is synthetic and fulfills certain criteria. In any case it's a rather insignificant amount compared to fuel costs, especially with fuel taxes as they are. If oil change costs start to add up, there's a significant possibility of you doing something wrong (including the choice of vehi…
You also have to consider how much your time is worth of you're changing it yourself to get that cost.
Either way it's an added cost(along with transmission, differentials, etc) that you just don't incur on EVs. Right now my maintenance schedule is brake fluid @40k and coolant @100k and tires, that's it.
It currently costs about $2.50 to manufacture a battery cell. There are 7,700 cells in a standard battery pack. That’s $19,250 in cells before battery pack assembly. I don’t know how they are making money on this. I’m inclined to believe they’re losing money, or someone is somewhere in the line. Maybe they expect those battery costs to decline rapidly in the near future? What do you think?
They manufacture their own batteries in their Gigafactory outside of Reno, NV. They make more Li Ion batteries than any other battery manufacturer. Their batteries cost less than $2.50. https://electrek.co/2018/11/20/tesla-gigafactory-battery-cel...
I know the Gigafactory battery production intimately. I can tell you they don’t cost less than $2.50 per cell at the moment.
I just absolutely do not understand how "if you don't like it just return it" is a replacement for a test drive. Unwinding an auto loan, getting back your traded-in vehicle, etc. All of this seems non-trivial to me. Carvana does the same thing (in fact: they already are doing the whole "buy the car online, return if you don't like it, we deliver to your house" model).
They could pay it off immediately for you?
> getting back your traded-in vehicle,
They could give you the cash value of it? Also, does Tesla even accept trade-ins?
> etc.
What else?