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It's cheaper to Tesla if they "deliver" it at their factory. I took delivery of my Tesla at the Fremont factory. was still forced to pay full delivery fee. insane.
I picked my car up from one of the Tesla showrooms. I did not pay the delivery fee. I was never even given the option to have it delivered.
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I picked my car up from one of the Tesla showrooms. I did not pay the delivery fee. I was never even given the option to have it delivered.
And now they're getting rid of showrooms, so that isn't really relevant anymore.
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Including the credits in the price used to be pretty shady, since you had to have a sufficient pre-credit tax liability to actually get the full benefit of the credit. (The EV credit is non-refundable, meaning that if you don't have a tax liability, you don't get anything from the credit.) But the Trump Tax Bill lowered everyone's refunds (largely because the IRS lowered withholding during the year), so more people h…
Eligibility for tax credits is unaffected by witholding rates or how large your end-of-year refund or liability is. And anyone who can afford a Tesla is sure to be paying enough income tax to get the full value of the EV credit.
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I have never once paid a delivery fee for a new car. I do not know anyone who has bought a non-luxury car that has paid a delivery fee for a car. OTOH, I do know many people who paid delivery fees for customized luxury cars. The $35k Model 3, however, is not a luxury car and is barely customizable, even to the extent of available add-on packages.
Oh yes you have. Every dealer everywhere charges a "Destination Fee." That is what you pay for delivery to the dealer's. That line item for the price of the car is non-negotiable. There is wiggle room on MSRP etc. This was the first google result that came up for "car destination fee" :- A "destination charge" is a fee that the manufacturer charges to deliver a vehicle from the factory to the dealership, and that is…
You may be doing that thing where you assume parent, and indeed everyone, is in the same country you are in, subject to the same laws, regulations, and traditional rorts.
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You can customize by clicking learn more. It's under 'gas savings' and has a calculator which updates the price.
The calculator only let's you set "miles driven/year" and the price of gas. Not mpg of current vehicle. So the results are the same regardless of whether I'm driving a Prius that gets 60mpg or an Abrams tank that gets 0.6 mpg. On top of that, the results will be even more meaningless if you currently own an electric car.
"To achieve these prices while remaining financially sustainable, Tesla is shifting sales worldwide to online only. You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn’t needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for…
“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…
To my mind the mere fact that someone would borrow money at all to buy _a car_ is a huge red flag against their creditworthiness / financial responsibility.
But I keep reading online that people who otherwise seem pretty sensible do this as a matter of course. Is it possible that living in a city with functioning public transport has sheltered me to the point of naivety? That is to say, is having a car really so essential to holding down a job and accessing services in most of America (etc.) that taking out a loan to acquire a car becomes a necessary evil?
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Solely on the fact that they show the cost of ownership first?
Solely on the fact that they present an imagined "cost of ownership" as the price, yes. It's deceptive enough--and 90% of people who saw that page would say that the costs of the cars are what's listed on the right column, which makes it deceptive--that it leaves a wildly unpleasant taste in my mouth. And, in my case, it's not even close to accurate: I don't own a car right now, and any purchase would be because I ac…
It’s not an imagined cost of ownership for me, an actual owner, who just got $7,500 back and pay $7 for 300mi.
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“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…
> "financing for a car" ... "ding your credit score" To my mind the mere fact that someone would borrow money at all to buy _a car_ is a huge red flag against their creditworthiness / financial responsibility. But I keep reading online that people who otherwise seem pretty sensible do this as a matter of course. Is it possible that living in a city with functioning public transport has sheltered me to the point of na…
It’s all about opportunity cost. If you have better things to do with the cash then it makes sense to finance.
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“Courageous” If anyone has ever had to cancel a car sale you’ll realize how much of a hassle it truely is to “return a car” Your credit report will show a loan even after it’s been cancelled for weeks. I once cancelled financing for a car due to it not being as described. Started looking for a new car and found it. Got denied for a loan because my score showed a 60k loan with 0 payments made. It took almost 2 months…
> "financing for a car" ... "ding your credit score" To my mind the mere fact that someone would borrow money at all to buy _a car_ is a huge red flag against their creditworthiness / financial responsibility. But I keep reading online that people who otherwise seem pretty sensible do this as a matter of course. Is it possible that living in a city with functioning public transport has sheltered me to the point of na…
Yes, it is, and it really sucks that we in Amercia designed so many of our towns and even cities this way.