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Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Does it matter to the victim who is at fault? ...also, there's a $1,200 delivery fee. Is this the new "restock fee"? it is conveniently left out of the marketing materials.

Cars have always had delivery fees. Delivering something that weighs several tons is not cheap.

Yes, but you can normally test drive a car without paying the delivery fee.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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It's so shady that their advertised price includes some hypothetical "potential gas savings", and the actual price is behind a tiny "learn more" link.

The real price is at the bottom of the page without having to click through, but yes, it's still really shady. No other car OEM does this.

How many of those sell electric cars which have entirely different economics? I wonder if Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt use this.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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They do some BS about how much gas you will save and say that makes the car cheaper. It seems incredibly dishonest to me unless they actually let me customize that value for my current car and travel habits, as well as factoring aspects of the Model 3 that can be more expensive (e.g. maintenance)

You can customize by clicking learn more. It's under 'gas savings' and has a calculator which updates the price.

The calculator only let's you set "miles driven/year" and the price of gas. Not mpg of current vehicle. So the results are the same regardless of whether I'm driving a Prius that gets 60mpg or an Abrams tank that gets 0.6 mpg. On top of that, the results will be even more meaningless if you currently own an electric car.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

> clearly it's geolocating by IP address here so you can use a vpn/vps/etc to get the rebate?

You get rebate from your state not Tesla.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Don’t buy a car from a company that won’t last past 2019.

The risk of default, as estimated by the market, can be calculated[1] from the Tesla bond prices[2]. With the numbers I punched in, I'm getting 2.9% chance of default per coupon period (6 months).

[1] http://www.quantwolf.com/calculators/bonddefaultcalc.html

[2] https://markets.businessinsider.com/bonds/tesla_incdl-notes_...

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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I agree that it is unnecessary and borderline misleading. They will display the amount you actually have to pay, though. On the flip side: you don't have to deal with dealerships, which are _much worse_ You just configure the car, give your credit card information, and done. This is unlike most other manufacturers which, even if they do give you a quote, will then hand you off to shady salespeople.

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills now, who is paying for their car using a credit card? I must just be out of touch.

They can take online payment from a bank account (such as after you’ve deposited a check from an auto loan) or they can take a physical bank draft (such as you would get from an auto loan) upon delivery. They drive the car to you either on a truck or on its own wheels, you do some paperwork, and 15 minutes later the delivery driver either hops in a Lyft or gets back in the semi truck.

I’m sure credit card would work too if you had a high enough limit but those are the other options.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Not really if I have no idea what I’m buying?

Rent it for a couple days on Turo. I did that recently with a Model 3 just to try it out.

Turo refused to rent to me because I don’t have any recent US driving/insurance history for their insurance scoring. Never had a problem at any other normal car rental place.

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Interesting to point out that the $35k is the full price, which goes down when additional discounts are applied. If you get the short range model with no options, it starts out at $35k, then goes down all the way to $24,950 after including the $3,750 Federal tax credit, $2,000 New York EV rebate (clearly it's geolocating by IP address here), and "$4,300 estimated 6 year gas savings". OK, so that last bit is BS, and i…

> clearly it's geolocating by IP address here so you can use a vpn/vps/etc to get the rebate?

Pretty useless if you aren't going to pay NY taxes, right?

Re: $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Available Now

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Always something negative when it comes to Tesla. They finally delivered on their promise of a $35k model 3, which is a monumental achievement, and yet the top comment is about the website. Haven't seen the desktop site, but on mobile the full price of $35k is clearly visible.

Monumental achievement like the $36.6K Chevy Volt https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev-electric-car (with longer range than Model 3)

Yes, they are both great achievements.
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