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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by PurpleBoxDragon »

rtkwe wrote: post #586
PurpleBoxDragon wrote: post #566

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What about the deafblind?

What's their solution for any other website? It seems like they'd have a very difficult time accessing ANY site. In a quick search it seems like NoCaptcha is the accessible answer for the issues with regular Captchas. For the most part it seems to work, most of the complaints here seem to stem from people trying to actively block some of the evaluation metrics used by the checkbox (cookies,javascript,user strings,fin…

>which makes them look very different from normal traffic which kind of by necessity makes them look a lot more like bots.

But if they are doing so because they are disabled, and the difference means they receive a worse experience, may result in an ADA complaint (especially if a government service falling under section 508 is involved).

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Post by eridius »

iheartpotatoes wrote: post #627
Anarch157a wrote: post #575

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I cancelled and deleted my Spotify account because of that. Now any site that asks me to fill a Google recaptcha is met with a swift click on the Back button.

Really? You gave up one of the best streaming music services because you had to use a captcha every now and then? Huh. Good data point. But you're probably not our target audience if you give up that easy, we sell engineering tools for solving difficult problems.

You said

> During testing I had to shut it off because it became increasingly more complicated every page reload. First it was just one page of traffic lights, but 20 minutes later I was having to click through 5-6 pages of images. This worries me that user's might get pissed off.

Why are you now badmouthing someone else for deleting Spotify over this exact same issue?

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by tripzilch »

lloeki wrote: post #512
mcv wrote: post #480

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I would have sent them a photo of a robot.

I would have disguised as a robot and sent them a picture of me. Ironically sending a robot picture is the best proof that you're not one, since robots don't have a sense of humour (yet). Wait; lightbulb moment; someone has to run a NN against a dad joke DB and learn AI to crack some (like the generated face stuff). Well this is the internets and all, so I suppose it's been done before but no one would admit to ownin…

> someone has to run a NN against a dad joke DB and learn AI to crack some

A "that's what she said" detector can be implemented as a two class identification problem. This 2011 describes one algorithm that achieves 71% precision: That's What She Said: Double Entendre Identification https://www.aclweb.org/anthology/P11-2016

I believe they could have done an even better job with better training (and test) data. It seems to me there's a big problem with how they selected the negative examples: one of the sources is a set of racy text messages, which would be rife with positives. They claim TWSS positives are rare in general, but I doubt that holds for a sexy text messages corpus.

Their overall strategy is pretty interesting though (not deep learning).

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Post by modzu »

superkuh wrote: post #580
modzu wrote: post #32

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get this. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captch...

I guess Mozilla hasn't noticed that one yet. They've been removing captcha bypassing add-ons from their site. And because all Firefox versions that aren't buggy require add-ons to be signed by Moz it makes distributing them through other channels rather tedious.

what moz should really be doing is removing captchas from websites, not the captcha-bypass add-ons ;)

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Post by chillwaves »

omeid2 wrote: post #427
chillwaves wrote: post #421

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I tried to get into that film but why does every AI story seem to end with man trying to fuck his creation? I'm over that trope.

This may sound bizarre, but to fuck is a fundamental desire of organisms that reproduce sexually, and reproduction is one of the prime objectives of living organisms.

I am not sure how fucking a robot has anything to do with reproduction.

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Post by palunon »

likeclockwork wrote: post #518
palunon wrote: post #510

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Robots can't own property, as they are not recognized as a person. You may sell to someone represented by a robot, but you're not selling to the robot. When using a vending machine, your making a trade with the vending machine company, not the machine itself.

Can a robot be the sole asset, employee, and officer of a corporation?

A robot cannot be an employee or officer of a corporation, you need to be a person for that.
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