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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by Frondo »

mamon wrote: post #382
Frondo wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What isn't subject to definition creep? Murder now, for some, includes abortion. Censorship now includes, for some, private companies removing bad actors from their private systems. Come on, that's lazy to dismiss it that way when society literally changes all the time.

Offtopic, but regarding abortion: Whether or not abortion is a murder is not about definition of "murder" it is about definition of "human being". There's no doubt that abortion involves killing a living creature, the whole pro-choice vs pro-life debate is basically about one simple question: "is fetus a human being?". If you answer that with "yes", then every abortion becomes a murder, plain and simple. This also ex…

A fetus isn't a living thing. It has the potential to become a living thing, but so do a lot of things that aren't living.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by Dylan16807 »

puzzle wrote: post #436
Dylan16807 wrote: post #356

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Tor Browser accepts session cookies. It won't have an established google identity, but it fully supports a temporary "solved the captcha" identity.

What prevents a botnet from sharing that same session cookie?

A botnet doesn't need Tor in the first place. And you can limit the use of a single captcha solution. It's not much different from the problem of a legitimate google account being borrowed by a bot.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by blitmap »

eridius wrote: post #43

Lately I've been getting reCAPTCHA prompts all the time even though I'm not browsing in incognito mode and haven't cleared cookies. All I'm doing is running a very basic ad blocker, using Safari (which blocks third-party tracking), and very rarely loading a Google site. The most interaction I have with Google is when I end up having to use my corporate Google account as SSO for some other site. Given that I'm not doi…

I have noticed this too. I've switched to DuckDuckGo for everything and I haven't changed my habits. Started getting more captchas a couple weeks ago and I know I answered several of them correctly (I'd get tested 3 times in a row).

Possible fingerprinting?

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by hartator »

At SerpApi.com, we built a bot to check these boxes and an AI to solve the actual CAPTCHA.

Checking the box is actually not that hard. There is no advanced measurements of your mouse and touch speed. This is an Internet myth. It's more a game of cookies, making them age well, and having an organic set of headers.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by rtkwe »

PurpleBoxDragon wrote: post #566
rtkwe wrote: post #310

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They already have an accommodations for the visually impaired with the audio captchas. https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/6175971?hl=en

What about the deafblind?

What's their solution for any other website? It seems like they'd have a very difficult time accessing ANY site.

In a quick search it seems like NoCaptcha is the accessible answer for the issues with regular Captchas. For the most part it seems to work, most of the complaints here seem to stem from people trying to actively block some of the evaluation metrics used by the checkbox (cookies,javascript,user strings,fingerprinting,etc) which makes them look very different from normal traffic which kind of by necessity makes them look a lot more like bots.

https://simplyaccessible.com/article/googles-no-captcha/

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Post by manmal »

ivanbakel wrote: post #93
partiallypro wrote: post #83

Every time I fill one of these out I get the picture test, and I answer them correctly...but am asked 3-5 times to identify which blocks contain a school bus or stop light. It's very annoying.

I think it's speculated that you're recorded as being a useful classifier if you answer correctly on initial test captchas, so you get given Google's datasets for machine learning. It would explain why you get picture tests even after you should definitely pass the check.

You mean, they still haven't managed to classify those storefronts correctly, after 3 years or so?

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Post by arayh »

rococode wrote: post #200
tracker1 wrote: post #162

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That's what ReCaptcha always was... it was originally a known and another unsure text blurb from scanned books/text documents. Now it's street signs etc.

It's actually pretty interesting to see how the captchas have evolved as, presumably, Google decides "OK, we have enough data to consistently identify this thing" and moves on to the next challenge. I recall the modern (non-text) captchas used to be cars pretty much every time. Then, the images started getting grainier as they apparently wanted to improve their recognition in different conditions. Then crosswalks and…

I wouldn't be surprised if soon enough you'll have to play a mini-match of Starcraft 2 as part of REcaptcha to train DeepMind.

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Post by [deleted] »

taneq wrote: post #312
rococode wrote: post #200

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It's actually pretty interesting to see how the captchas have evolved as, presumably, Google decides "OK, we have enough data to consistently identify this thing" and moves on to the next challenge. I recall the modern (non-text) captchas used to be cars pretty much every time. Then, the images started getting grainier as they apparently wanted to improve their recognition in different conditions. Then crosswalks and…

Google: spins off robotic car company Waymo, announcing public-facing robotaxi service launch in 2018 Also Google: "Our standard for 'what a machine couldn't possibly do' is identifying a stop sign."

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

rtkwe wrote: post #586
PurpleBoxDragon wrote: post #566

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What about the deafblind?

What's their solution for any other website? It seems like they'd have a very difficult time accessing ANY site. In a quick search it seems like NoCaptcha is the accessible answer for the issues with regular Captchas. For the most part it seems to work, most of the complaints here seem to stem from people trying to actively block some of the evaluation metrics used by the checkbox (cookies,javascript,user strings,fin…

Braille interfaces are a thing.
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