Na, I'm tired of these excuses too. Maybe jail is too extreme in this case, but being sloppy isn't ok. Or not supporting MFA when you're dealing with financial data.
Proposed Jail Time for Tech Companies Who Steal Data
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#32Re: Proposed Jail Time for Tech Companies Who Steal Data
#33Quit expecting governments to save you. The easiest fix for this problem is to stop using these products! No matter how much bad news comes out about Facebook, Apple, Google, and Amazon using your data in bad ways -- people still keep using them. If enough people quit, this will stop or a competitor will rise up who doesn't do this stuff.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Equifax is a credit reporting agency. So, for example, someone gets a loan from a bank, then fails to pay it and the bank reports that to them. Other lenders check with them before lending to people. You’re being disingenuous by equating that with theft.
Not patching servers for months and leaving them for attackers to exploit is definitely stealing. It doesn't matter how they got the data, they let others steal it and were therefore complicit in the theft itself due to negligence, willful or not.
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#35> ...including jail time, if their companies steal and sell user data, > or allow a massive data breach to occur at their company. What if the government loses our data? Then what? Will they go to jail too? Software is a moving target. It has become such a complex endeavor, always changing, always evolving. It's difficult to determine who's responsible for which part of the system; and by this I'm not suggesting we a…
The reason I don't think this will work is because the government and related contractors are major players on collecting, distributing and hacking private data. And if this works, it won't be because the government will stop doing it, but because want to control who else does.
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#36Quit expecting governments to save you. The easiest fix for this problem is to stop using these products! No matter how much bad news comes out about Facebook, Apple, Google, and Amazon using your data in bad ways -- people still keep using them. If enough people quit, this will stop or a competitor will rise up who doesn't do this stuff.
Re: Proposed Jail Time for Tech Companies Who Steal Data
#37Quit expecting governments to save you. The easiest fix for this problem is to stop using these products! No matter how much bad news comes out about Facebook, Apple, Google, and Amazon using your data in bad ways -- people still keep using them. If enough people quit, this will stop or a competitor will rise up who doesn't do this stuff.
Of course I had the engineers stand under the bridge while my army was marching across.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people don’t know about these issues or don’t care. Also how do you know what company uses your data in bad ways? There are probably plenty of others who do shady stuff you never hear about. We need privacy laws so products that are on the market can be safely used. Otherwise let’s abolish food safety rules and tell people just not to eat at places where food with salmonella gets sold.
I think comparing food safety to data safety is comparing unlike types and levels of safety. No one has ever died from targeted advertising.
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#39Pitchfork mobs dictating policy, that is why you don't elect an ex state attorney general to the legislative branch: prosecution and grandstanding is all they know. Also the principle concept of "stealing your data" is more ludicrous than "stealing" in the copyright sense; that data is meta data and it's not yours, it was generated by machines you don't own and have no claim over.
I'm pretty sure that, for example, the list of grocery brands someone buys using a store loyalty card isn't "metadata", and while "stealing" is hyperbole, I'm pretty sure most people would be upset upon realizing how far and wide that information is being sold.
Re: Proposed Jail Time for Tech Companies Who Steal Data
#40Pitchfork mobs dictating policy, that is why you don't elect an ex state attorney general to the legislative branch: prosecution and grandstanding is all they know. Also the principle concept of "stealing your data" is more ludicrous than "stealing" in the copyright sense; that data is meta data and it's not yours, it was generated by machines you don't own and have no claim over.