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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Is this the same Japan that blurs out genitals in porn films? Even in puritan America that doesn't happen.

I heard the genitalia censorship is a western influence, but I haven't found a really solid source. This is from a Cracked article: >Despite what the censored porn might imply, nudity has never been taboo in Japanese culture. Not only were women used to walking around topless, but what we call porn was just another common genre of books, like cooking or travel. Japanese porn, or shunga, was a traditional form of visu…

That was my understanding. Censorship got seriously going during the Meiji Restoration in 1868. And it got strengthened after Japan's surrender in WWII.

And it wasn't just sex that got censored. It became illegal to criticize the occupation government, object to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, complain about Japan's loss of the war, etc, etc.

As I understand it, that's what the 50s monster movies were about. The monsters were metaphors for the nuclear and firestorm attacks on civilian populations.

Those laws no longer exist. And so Miike gets into those issues in a few films. "Izo", for example, begins with an extended fast-motion contemplation of WWII, ending with the nuclear attacks. But "Izo" is more generally about the absurdity of nationalism, and how it's used by the powerful to control the masses. Indeed, it takes on all forms of authoritarianism, including religion.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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It's even harder for old-school Japanese norms. What used to pass as mildly titillating in Japan is XXX porn in the US. And some of what's shocking there is easily child porn in the US. That's even so for some German naturalist stuff, and that was never even intended to be shocking. For example, one of my favorite Miike films ("Visitor Q") begins with sex between a guy and his teenage daughter, who has been working a…

Is this the same Japan that blurs out genitals in porn films? Even in puritan America that doesn't happen.

But not all genitalia. For example, there's the Kanamara Matsuri ("Festival of the Steel Phallus").[0] And some anime includes extremely detailed genitalia.

0) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanamara_Matsuri

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Since I heard about Tumblrs new policy a week before it was implemented, I've been hard at work building Libr ( https://librapp.com ) to replace it. A large amount of art that isn't porn, but that qualifies as "adult content" under the new policy has been all but purged from the internet. It's impossible to ban adult content in a cost effective way without also banning a large amount of legitimate art. Libr is about…

> This will be a Progresive web app - No app store needed, meaning no app store bans. Why do you call it an app instead of a website? The word 'app' to me strongly implies that whatever the service does can only be meaningfully accessed via an app on Android or IOS, and that the publisher has reasons (often for monetization purposes) to keep the software client proprietary and exclusive.

This usage of “app” I believe denoted the category of websites that would have been desktop applications ten years ago. For instance, Google Docs is a web app.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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I am not saying capitalism as such is terrible, or that we should abolish it etc. What I do think we need is to have a more healthy mix of properly regulated capitalism, higher taxation of top earners, closing loopholes and corporations storing cash overseas and healthy social programs, infrastructure development etc. As for " it's better to be impoverished today than to be middle class 50 years ago", there was certa…

Well, if I understand correctly, you are arguing against the phrase, "Capitalism is an elegant system for resource allocation". But I still haven't parsed what your argument actually is, beyond, some people have gotten left behind, which is certainly true. I also don't understand the mindset that it's somehow somebody else's fault when a person accumulates student debt. Like, I'm sorry you made a poor choice, but nob…

> some people have gotten left behind, which is certainly true.

Yeah, which probably shouldn't happen in an 'elegant' system, you know?

> I also don't understand the mindset that it's somehow somebody else's fault when a person accumulates student debt. Like, I'm sorry you made a poor choice, but nobody physically twisted your arm and made you take this loan.

That's a grossly simplistic view of the matter. I am saying that if your parents did not have to take out a loan to get higher education, why should you? If capitalism is so elegant why? It should elegantly allocate resources so that it's not necessary.

As for nobody twisting your arm, you're of course right in the literal sense, but many higher paying jobs require candidates to have a higher education, so if you want to get on that economic ladder at all, in many cases you're forced into it by societal expectations. But even if it weren't so, what 'elegant' system makes progress by allowing the next generation to grow within it to obtain less free education than their parents? That doesn't seem like progress to me.

Moreover, student debt is a problem for the broader society as well, because if young people cannot participate in the economy to the same degree as their parents, be ready for some stagnation.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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I'm going to try to get access to the free Google API for child porn detection, removal and reporting: https://www.blog.google/around-the-globe/google-europe/using...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna/cloudservice is also worth looking at, but you've probably already seen it.

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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Tribal hatred for "out groups" is a human problem

Racism is a political problem. It doesn't arise out of some universal flawed human psyche, it arises because certain political structures exist that stratify and marginalize groups of people. In the United States, for example, "whiteness" was an invention that changed over time to include different groups depending on political circumstances. Calling it merely a "human" problem ignores the strong relationship between…

Racism is indeed stoked and used for political ends, but it is still rooted in the natural human fear of tribal out-groups (people who speak, look, act, and believe differently)

>Calling it merely a "human" problem ignores the strong relationship between racism and the legacy of European and American colonialism.

Framing racism solely in terms of American and European history is woefully ignorant of the extensive world/human history of ethnic discrimination/slavery/murder/genocide. Have you only ever studied American/European history??

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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i don't agree. Google ranks, but shouldn't be allowed to treat one group unfairly. For example, google shouldn't be allowed to downrank one ethnicity and prefer another. Similiar, google shouldn't be allowed to "forcefully" downrank one's blog, just because it doesn't like some thoughts about sexuality (I don't know if it does though). It's not that google has the total freedom to adjust the search-ranking like it se…

The comment I responded to explicitly states that "discrimination for _any_ reason is illegal". That doesn't work and can't work; it's not even meaningful. By that standard, the existence of Google is, in itself, criminal.

No, it isn't. You're just using the wrong meaning of an overloaded word.

Definition of discrimination

1a : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment racial discrimination b : the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually

2 : the quality or power of finely distinguishing the film viewed by those with discrimination

3a : the act of making or perceiving a difference : the act of discriminating a bloodhound's scent discrimination b psychology : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently

(https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discrimination)

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Well, if I understand correctly, you are arguing against the phrase, "Capitalism is an elegant system for resource allocation". But I still haven't parsed what your argument actually is, beyond, some people have gotten left behind, which is certainly true. I also don't understand the mindset that it's somehow somebody else's fault when a person accumulates student debt. Like, I'm sorry you made a poor choice, but nob…

> some people have gotten left behind, which is certainly true. Yeah, which probably shouldn't happen in an 'elegant' system, you know? > I also don't understand the mindset that it's somehow somebody else's fault when a person accumulates student debt. Like, I'm sorry you made a poor choice, but nobody physically twisted your arm and made you take this loan. That's a grossly simplistic view of the matter. I am sayin…

Elegant: (of a scientific theory or solution to a problem) pleasingly ingenious and simple.

I'm not implying any of the characteristics you think I am. Capitalism is simple and effective, and IMO beautiful in the way it works at a systemic level.

That doesn't mean nobody gets left behind, not by a long shot. You know what else has been an elegant an unmatched algorithm/system for making life better? Evolution. In all of its brutal beauty, it leaves behind many in its path with premature mortality or failure to reproduce. And yet it's culminated in the human race. It wasn't mysteriously directed by some higher force, it just worked.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Well, if I understand correctly, you are arguing against the phrase, "Capitalism is an elegant system for resource allocation". But I still haven't parsed what your argument actually is, beyond, some people have gotten left behind, which is certainly true. I also don't understand the mindset that it's somehow somebody else's fault when a person accumulates student debt. Like, I'm sorry you made a poor choice, but nob…

> some people have gotten left behind, which is certainly true. Yeah, which probably shouldn't happen in an 'elegant' system, you know? > I also don't understand the mindset that it's somehow somebody else's fault when a person accumulates student debt. Like, I'm sorry you made a poor choice, but nobody physically twisted your arm and made you take this loan. That's a grossly simplistic view of the matter. I am sayin…

Oh, and as for student debt, maybe it's possible that a human economic system where nobody has to do grunt work, heavy lifting, manual labor, or exist lower on a hierarchy than anybody else is completely unsustainable. In fact, I question why anyone _would_ think that would be sustainable.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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I've had an idea for an adult oriented app, that many many people have told me they'd pay for and support, but it'd need push notifications to work (preventing it from working in a browser), and Apple is such a walled garden that you can't even sideload an app the way you can in Android (or any desktop OS). It's quite frustrating to see the way they get to shape culture.

You can do push notifications in browsers. See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Push_API

Yeah, but it's not supported on iOS' Safari. You need the user to install a native app for them to be able to receive notifications, and it looks like they're years away from implementing that on a browser. So it's App Store or bust.
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