Milk industry did the same thing to make people think milk is good for people
50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
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Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
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> 1. I often can't find any meat in the supermarket that has not been denatured by having the fat removed. Youtuber Thomas Delauer makes the case that this is not such a big deal since you can always mix lean meat with other sources of fat (like butter or coco nut oil). Also I once heard that toxins are accumulated in fat tissue so if you eat animals that were poorly fed (for instance cows fed with grains instead of…
Unless that extinction was not due to human intervention at all, but rather a cataclysmic event causing the Younger Dryas cooling. Maybe the meteor that created the Hiawatha crater on Greenland. [0] Which doesn't really contradict your theory though, only your reason for the megafauna extinction. [0] https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/695704
It's a debated issue among paleontologists, IIRC. Surely, human hunting did not help those species anyway. We also know for sure that in more recent times humans hunted many species of large animals to extinction (like giant birds), so until a definitive evidence is provided, to me the hunting hypothesis gets a high prior probability.
It also seems that most mass extinctions were not due to a single factor anyway, but to a combination of factors. So, yeah.
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
#223And 50 years later I still struggle to find yogurt that hasn’t been stripped of its fat at office snack fridges.
I rather suspect this is because the market for butter creates a complementary market for skim milk. Skim milk isn't great, so the producers have little choice but to heavily market 'low-fat' products. There's only so much ricotta that the market will bear.
I've never understood the market for skimmed milk; normal milk has so little fat anyway, it seems pointless to remove any, especially since it ruins the flavour.
I can only guess that the milk producers want that milk fat for something else, butter and cream perhaps, so created an artificial market by claiming skimmed is healthier.
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
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I personally don't mind. In fact, I look for yogurt that's low in fat and low in sugar as it tends to be high in protein and relatively low in calories, case in point FAGE Total 0%. 90 calories and 18g of protein in a 6oz. serving. Better than most protein bars.
Also, I might be alone in this, but I think the lower-fat FAGE yogurts (specifically the 2%) taste better than the full-fat one. They have a certain "tang" to them that isn't present in their whole milk yogurt, which I absolutely love for making sauces, dips, etc.
I don't think they taste better (I find them very claggy too), but I do think it tastes great, and it's the best low-fat yoghurt I've ever had, by a wide margin - and there isn't any added sugar, which is almost unheard of in low-fat yoghurt.
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
#225This undue exaggeration about sugar lobby influence has been thoroughly debunked - http://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6377/747 Aside, it is really a shame how reductionist the popular view of nutrition is that we come to scapegoating "fat" or "sugar". T. Colin Campbell says it well: This is reductionist experimentation that encourages the development of out-of-context remedies targeted to one risk factor or on…
Nutrition is so much more nuanced than any of us really know. Everytime I think i know something, I learn more details and learn that there's even more to it. Sure, Sugar can be acceptable if you use it responsibly. You can even safely consume a Soda if you're in a glycogen depleted state such as after a marathon or from 16 hours of fasting. But, do you really wanna waste you're precious calorie/sugar alotment for th…
I’m curious, does that assessment include the difference between glucose and fructose?
My mental model was more that pure glucose is rather safe (given healthy insuline response) while fructose should be avoided even after a 16h fast.
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
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American, maybe. Western, really? https://www.google.com/amp/s/bigthink.com/two-maps-and-one-g... It seems that obesity in Europe affects 1/4 to 1/5, while in the US is 1/3. The EU country with highest incidence of obesity is alse the one that is famous for its lack of a (decent) food culture, the UK. As an Italian, I find it hard to convince myself that US obesity problems have one single cause to blame, sugar, rath…
American food culture suffers from the same problem that afflicts the American culture in general: the infatuation with big : big cars, big army, big dicks, big coffee-mugs, big tits. And big soft-drinks. No surprise they have an obesity problem. Of course Americans are also usually nice people in a big way, let's not forget.
> big cars, big army, big dicks, big coffee-mugs, big tits. And big soft-drinks.
One of these things is not like the others...
Buying big soft drink bottles instead of small is both cost-effective (as they're usually cheaper per liter) and a plastic saving measure.
(What I particularly dislike about modern consumerism is the infatuation with small: small bags of chips, small bags of fruits, individually-packaged sausages, small bottles of drinks, small bottles/bags of cosmetics, etc. Combined with disposability of packaging, it's just a huge generator of plastic waste.)
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
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I was listening to the car radio only yesterday, tuned into a mainstream station and an advert came on for one of the major supermarkets. The gist of the advert was the holiday seasons had passed and you might be looking to lose some of the "excesses" e.g. body fat, so why not get some x brand low fat (high sugar) yogurts, six for the price of four. I just said to myself, how can they get away with putting out a clea…
The general public is still largely stuck in the past and actually thinks low fat foods == non-fattening foods. So it's effective marketing.
Yet another example of marketing being way underregulated and generally harmful to society.
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people add sugar to their yogurt. I literally have never seen this. For my own use, sugar stats are my top criteria for rejecting yogurt.
I think you misunderstood. Buying yogurt with sugar in it is "adding sugar to yogurt". Someone had to do it for you.
In French cantines, yoghurt is either sweetened beforehand or packs of sugar are available. It's very common to add sugar after opening, but it makes little difference with sweetened yoghurt (at least in taste).
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
#229This is way bigger than sugar or even one segment of research. This type of corrupting influence (direct or indirect) provides enough uncertainty to allow people to ignore all research that doesn't confirm their personal bias. It also fuels the anti-science groups that claim conspiracies to hide the 'truth'.
Both sides have convincing arguments and research to back it up. They have good answers to the seemingly contradictory research that the other side uses. They both provide a consistent picture.
One or both of the theories has to be wrong but I cannot decide. I can learn and read all about it and take both viewpoints into account but I still cannot decide. I could do my own research but I would come up with one or the other answer depending on what data I look at but it's not better than what I have already.
What should I do?
This is a real problem because science cannot provide the correct answer. It is more about choosing a side and sticking with it than about finding the truth.
Re: 50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)
#230Indeed. And now it's the turn of the Dairy industry. Many papers funded by Big Dairy in Canada and other places in the last few years.