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Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Providers. I only hire child and pet care providers I have performed a background check on, I’ve vetted in person, and who come with references from others. I do not use ride sharing, pet services, Airbnb, or other such P2P platforms.

If people only hire people with references how does one get references?

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Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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So 40% admit that they would save their own dog over a foreign tourist, when asked . Now, ask yourself how many would save their own dog if they weren't being asked or observed (and implicitly judged)? I consider the link fairly strong evidence for my claim.

Very interesting knowledge acquisition technique. Thank you for sharing.

It's far from knowledge acquisition; I'll have forgotten this by next week. But your evidence didn't support your position. I told you why I think it supported mine.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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> In any case, Wag and its walker are probably not at fault. I'd be after the driver. Not sure how you can jump to that conclusion. A driver can probably assume that a dog being walked by a person, even near the road, will be controlled appropriately by the walker. The only time a driver could not reasonably assume this is where the dog is too large to be controllable by the person (kid or small adult) who is walking…

A car shouldn’t be within leash distance of a pedestrian. As long as the walker is behaving appropriately as a pedestrian and the dog is on leash the driver is going to be found at fault. The same is true even in cases where that is not the case. Obviously we don’t know in this instance but in most cases fault goes to the driver if the dog is on leash, and given that this dog did not belong to the owner I’d be surpri…

Do you believe it's likely the driver is at fault given the lack of evidence?

When I imagine a pet getting killed by a car I image it becomes free and running out in front of a car, not a car breaking a law and encroaching on the pets leash space. Perhaps there are some counter-intuitive stats on this I'm not aware of :)

Further, there are a LOT of places where a person on a sidewalk would be within a leash length of a car legally driving 30+ mph.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Why I agree this is terrible, you might want to reconsider your comment also. Pets are a luxury for well-off people. It is in no way a necessity of life like food, or a basic shelter.

what's your point? I'm aware of that, but the "first world problems" meme exists to point the finger at people who have so few real problems that they make a big fuss about trivial inconveniences (Starbucks ran out of skimmed milk so you had to use semi-skimmed, best blow it up on twitter). You're supporting a reduction where anything beyond "I'm dying" is a first world problem. Grief at the loss of a pet is not a pr…

Thanks for your comment, it made me change my mind. The point of the comment was to put it back into perspective that "pets" are still very high on the luxury pyramid.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Maybe he loves his dog such that he is willing to go out of his way and even pay someone to walk the dog when life outside of home happens.

But it is literally anybody using that service. Why not get a dog sitter then? Someone they will get to know personally?

Because we don't know the circumstances of their living situation available services.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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This seems like a lot to ask for something that pays substantially less than McDonalds. Kind of feels like someone should be able to give non dog walking references to walk your dog. Like if people regularly trust their children with person foo person foo can probably be trusted with pets?

>> if people regularly trust their children with person foo person foo can probably be trusted with pets Isn't that chain of trust completely backwards? You'd start by looking after pets, then once you have loads of good references, you might just be able to upgrade to looking after kids? Full disclosure: zero pets + three kids

No teacher starts out by getting references by watching pets...

People have verifiable employment references where they have been in positions of trust where they have justified the trust put in them. It's how every position on earth works.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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The key here is INSURANCE which is a contract I have with them that limits the amount they pay out. However in the case of an auto, if I had a rare car for example, and someone caused damage to it, I could, in fact, sue the person that cause the damage and prove the actual damage even if it was above the replacement cause. Their insurance may not cover the difference but that would not absolve that person of the liab…

> I could, in fact, sue the person that cause the damage and prove the actual damage even if it was above the replacement cause No you couldn't, and I challenge you to find a single case where liability for damage to simple property has ever exceeded replacement value. You won't find it. The closest you'll find is where the property was fundamental to some business and there was lost income that contributed to the da…

How about Burgess v. Shampooch Pet Industries, Inc in Kansas...

Where the Pet Owner was awarded damages even though the 13 year old dog "negligible market value" given its age.

Summary of the Case:

This Kansas case presents an issue of first impression as to the proper measure of damages recoverable for injury to a pet dog. The plaintiff's dog, a 13-year old dog of negligible market value, suffered a dislocated hip after being groomed at defendant's establishment. The appellate court found the lower court's award of damages based on the veterinary bills was proper where the bills were not disputed and represented an easily ascertainable measure. Specifically, the court held that when an injured pet dog with no discernable market value is restored to its previous health, the measure of damages may include, but is not limited to, the reasonable and customary cost of necessary veterinary care and treatment. The court was unconvinced by defendant's "hyperbolic" claim that such an award would lead to a floodgate of high-dollar litigation on behalf of animals with low market values.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Very interesting knowledge acquisition technique. Thank you for sharing.

It's far from knowledge acquisition; I'll have forgotten this by next week. But your evidence didn't support your position. I told you why I think it supported mine.

I don’t have a position. I was wondering how to weigh your statement.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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I don't think you understand how little these gig apps pay. 1k deposit would exclude a very large percentage of the workers. And frankly - who in the hell in their right mind would PAY a company a grand so start working for them? That's sketchy af.

> who in the hell in their right mind would PAY a company a grand so start working for them? In order: A bond isn't paying them. It would ideally go to a reputable third party. Anyone that works for uber paid a whole lot more for that car, sometimes specifically for the job. Edit: Would the downvoter care to explain? I'm not even saying it's definitely a good idea, I'm just disagreeing with the particular arguments g…

What sounds reasonable to you about someone making $10-20 an hour having to pay $1000 just to start working? In order to make any money you have to work 50-100 hours (not including tax and whatnot). 1-3 full weeks working before you are back to where you started - how does that seem like a reasonable business model?

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Family has a dog. Family's dog needed a walk. There is a dog walking service called Wag. Family hires unidentified walker through Wag. Dog dies. Wag doesn't care and doesn't want to be held accountable. Family announces incident on Facebook. First world problems.

that's not what "first world problems" means. That's for people making a big deal about trivial problems. This isn't trivial, it's terrible.

It is not for trivial problems. It is for first world problems, as other places in the world don't have dog walking as a service complete with android apps and have not invented billion$ social networks for people to post their grievances when their pet dies or they get screwed over by strangers. Although, at the cost of appearing to be an individual who is insensitive to death, I can totally see the appeal for calling most first world problems trivial.
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