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Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Your mistake is in assuming vet bills constitute actual damages. In US law, dogs are simple property. If you wreck your car and it costs more to fix the car and replace it, the insurance doesn't pay to fix it -- they pay to replace it. Liability is whichever value is LESS. Dogs work the same way under the law. If someone injures your dog, they are liable to either pay 1) to fix the dog or 2) replace the dog, whicheve…

The key here is INSURANCE which is a contract I have with them that limits the amount they pay out. However in the case of an auto, if I had a rare car for example, and someone caused damage to it, I could, in fact, sue the person that cause the damage and prove the actual damage even if it was above the replacement cause. Their insurance may not cover the difference but that would not absolve that person of the liab…

> I could, in fact, sue the person that cause the damage and prove the actual damage even if it was above the replacement cause

No you couldn't, and I challenge you to find a single case where liability for damage to simple property has ever exceeded replacement value.

You won't find it.

The closest you'll find is where the property was fundamental to some business and there was lost income that contributed to the damages. This does not apply to pets (though it could apply to say, race horses or some show dogs).

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Interesting. Do you ever test your hypotheses? Here is some evidence regarding your "most" claim. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog...

So 40% admit that they would save their own dog over a foreign tourist, when asked . Now, ask yourself how many would save their own dog if they weren't being asked or observed (and implicitly judged)? I consider the link fairly strong evidence for my claim.

Very interesting knowledge acquisition technique. Thank you for sharing.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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Seems to be something that, sadly, is to be expected from this generation of SV and SV-like companies that believe than any problem (usually a very First-World problem) can be solved with technology, and all the bad things, and negative externalities, can and should ber swept under the rug on the way to a billion dollar exit.

What you've described sounds like SV (but not just SV) "Techbro" culture to me...

Exactly that. Move fast, break things, and pretend it's a good thing.

Obviously not an SV-only thing, but the culture in SV glorifies it instead of making it something you should be ashamed of.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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post #338

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Interesting. Do you ever test your hypotheses? Here is some evidence regarding your "most" claim. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog...

Test his hypothesis how, exactly? By putting a child and a dog into a disaster situation?

Examples available in the link in the comment you responded to.

In order to attempt to falsify a hypothesis you don't need to necessarily run a direct experiment on it. In fact, few things are testable like that.

Anyway, I think I have what I need to know as to how he tests his ideas.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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I realize this wasn't the point of the story, and I'm so sorry this happened to anyone's dog. But please do not buy dogs from breeders when there are plenty of amazing dogs waiting to be rescued at shelters.

Just to point out, Shelters are only really active in North America and a few European countries. Everyone else simply buys from the best breeders, and that’s mostly because lots of dog lovers are looking for something particular, like temperament, costmetic appearance, purity of bloodline, health history of the entire pedigree(mainly to know what kinda health problems to expect) etc. It’s good to know people “rescue…

>purity of bloodline

As I understand it this is a very dumb thing to look for. It is true that many people want a purebreed but many of these are genetic dead ends. Inbreeding has done awful things to many breeds of dogs, especially since it is very hard to maintain the traits we subjectively selected.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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im just wondering why get a dog if you don't have time for it. seems cruel in itself. a lot of people get dogs and can't walk them or have actual time for them, yet they say they are like family or kids.... i'm sure you do have time for them though :/

Because people want a god even if they don't want/can't make enough space in their life to take care of it ?

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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post #161

We had a similar (but thankfully, less serious) thing happen with Rover. We booked a dog sitter for 4 days with a woman named "Leslie". When we showed up to "Leslie's" place, the lady who we met did not match the person in the photo, and barely spoke any english. We were on our way to the airport, so I really didn't have a choice at that point but to leave our dog (I realize now I should have done more vetting, or me…

Why not put an IP camera on your pooch and front yard for the peace of mind and to verify they are actually doing their job?

As another poster said, this wasn't house-sitting, this was basically boarding. This is the problem with dogs as pets: you absolutely have to board them when you go away, or else you have to pay someone to come to your place several times a day to walk them and clean up after them. That's not cheap, and is why boarding exists (the boarding person/company can have a bunch of peoples' dogs all in one place and take care of them all at the same time).

Why anyone wants a pet that costs so much and can't be left alone for a couple of days, and on top of that needs regular bathing and grooming so they don't stink up your home, I have no idea. These animals made a lot of sense for working on farms and living mostly outside (and still do for people who still live that way in rural areas), but for urban environments they really don't.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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This is mildly fascinating. Though not entirely unexpected. A quick Google for "pet sitting dog died" turns up a number of these stories. It seems a number of them are through these dog sitting services like Wag or Rover. Here's an interesting one I found not through a dog sitting service but just a roommate that had been asked to sit the dog while the owner was away. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/t7kv7…

>In the pre-sharing economy days this still happened. Only you vetted the sitter first and so you feel less justified blaming them because on some level you know you signed off on them. You also couldn't really go public and say "14 year old Jenny from Ashmore killed my dog" because you can't make a common enemy out of her

Back in the old days, you could hire your neighbor's kid to do jobs like this.

These days, no one is having kids, so you don't have any neighborhood kids to hire for odd jobs. Instead, people are all just adopting dogs instead, so we have to have big corporations to take care of them for us, apparently.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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> Edit: Platforms don't kill dogs; people do. Stop trusting people. I disagree with that notion. Trust has always been a big problem. But when a two way market is built on a platform you trust the platform to carry out it's due diligence on your behalf. Situations like: The walker that was with Winnie when she was killed had a different name in her bio paragraph than was shown on her profile—which makes me wonder if…

>> you trust the platform to carry out it's due diligence on your behalf Isn't one of the central points of gig economy service provision that services are cheaper since the "red tape"/regulations aspect gets significantly less focus than before? If I wanted to drive a taxi in London, UK, there are some fairly onerous requirements[0], which come with a cost. So why did Uber and friends decide not to use the same list…

Those onerous requirements were actually pretty ridiculous, and included having to basically memorize an entire street map of the city. That may have made some sense 40 years ago, but today we have GPS navigation, so we don't need cabbies to know how to get to any address off the top of their head. Uber/Lyft work well because instead of having your cabbie take you on some overly-long route just to jack up your fare, they have to follow the route prescribed by Lyft/Uber's GPS app, which takes the most optimal route.

Re: My dog was killed on a walk with a walker ordered through Wag

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You should never be a dog owner. If you can't be there for them, you do not have them. I feel sorry for the dog, not you!

Sadly that's why I don't have a dog.

I just love dogs, especially large ones. While growing up, there has always been a dog with me. At the time I was living in the countryside so they always had lots of space and could go inside or outside as they pleased.

Now as an adult living in San Francisco, I just don't see how I could have a dog. Keeping the animal inside a small space almost all the time sounds very cruel.

So I might have a dog again in 10 or 20 years if I move to the countryside .. but probably not before that.

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