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'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by ip26 »

sky_rw wrote: post #171
sandworm101 wrote: post #155

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Because the pickup isn't a work vehicle. It is a statement, a bit of fashion. That's where the market is. People want to look like they need a pickup. In reality, they would be better served by a minivan. They are why every truck has back seats. A more honest answer is probably to get the smallish SUV and buy a trailer. An 8'x4' metal trailer, with full wheels, will let you haul the wood/stuff those few times a year…

The pickup truck isn't a work vehicle? Wow do we live in different worlds.

He's exaggerating, but there are countless pickups on the road that have never towed a trailer, driven off pavement, or hauled a load of dirt.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by perl4ever »

c3534l wrote: post #137
Rapzid wrote: post #64

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It may be because they view the F-series as a platform. So they are adding "all-electric" as a feature to the F-series platform. Along with hybrid.

But then the sentence still isn't right. You'd have to say "We're going to add all-electric to F-Series" or "We're going to make all-electric for F-Series."

"Ford: We're going to make an all-electric F-Series"

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by geggam »

germinalphrase wrote: post #32

Now, if only they would revive the light trucks of the 1980s. Even the new Ranger looks massive (perhaps, that’s only looks though?).

I have a ford ranger from 1998 and a mazda b3000 from 2000. Both are stick shift and have over 250k miles on them

No I am not selling them even though parts are starting to get hard to find

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by perl4ever »

cowmix wrote: post #44
jmole wrote: post #29

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I was thinking the same thing. There isn't enough power generation capacity in the US to support something like that.

Wrong. For the energy it takes to refine 1 gal of gas you can drive an EV around 27 miles.

An F-Series might consume more energy than, say, a Nissan Leaf, so it doesn't make sense to me to say "an EV" as though that were a standardized measurement.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by ip26 »

amacbride wrote: post #148
germinalphrase wrote: post #32

Now, if only they would revive the light trucks of the 1980s. Even the new Ranger looks massive (perhaps, that’s only looks though?).

We had a 3rd-Generation Toyota 4WD that was simply amazing -- I think we sold it with 350K miles on it, and it's probably still running today. I looked at a recent Tacoma, and was shocked at how huge they'd gotten. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hilux#Third_generation_...

The new Tacoma is basically a ringer for the old Tundra.

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Post by jessaustin »

strait wrote: post #83
xxpor wrote: post #13

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There's no reason why pickup trucks need to have the MASSIVE flat grills they do today, other than aesthetic preferences. They're a disaster aerodynamically as well as for pedestrian safety. Obviously there's a lot more to it (like the bed) but it's a start.

I think you're referring to the massive grill guards on the front of many pickups. Are you saying "no reason other than aesthetic preferences" because you feel like it? Deer at night are a major hazard in much of the land. I hit a small one at night a few weeks ago in central Texas and the dead center impact managed to destroy the chintzy plastic grill in my car and buckle the radiator. I was lucky at that. I was on…

Try communicating that to the deer

PSA: the way to communicate with any roadside animal is to lay on the horn. They rarely experience horn-honking, and it often shocks them right out of whatever mental rut led them to run onto the road in the first place. While car lights have a dazzling effect, car horns are scary to animals.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by ip26 »

nradov wrote: post #107
jws wrote: post #39

There is plenty of demand for short range commercial pickup trucks. Think of "on campus" maintenance vehicles. You need to tow equipment trailers, haul tools and bulk items, but you don't put many miles on them. A trip to the gas station is a pure waste of employee time, just charge them up at night. Marketing may prevent Ford from leading with a short range truck, but a less than eye wateringly expensive vehicle wit…

There's demand sure, but not much profit available. Those fleet buyers choose the cheapest stripper spec trucks and have no brand loyalty. So the manufacturers focus on more profitable segments.

It's interesting though, with lower operating costs & less maintenance, they might be worth the premium even for fleet. Fleet buyers get the stripper spec because leather and A/C doesn't matter, but electric might influence the bottom line.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by fyfy18 »

4thaccount wrote: post #101
ghettoimp wrote: post #27

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Do you need a truck? (If so that's just fine. But I'm in Texas, and I'm pretty sure most of these folks could get by on something smaller...)

I also live in the South and most people in my Suburb have zero use for a truck, but will gladly spend $90 to fill up their gas guzzler. Why? Because it is a symbol of masculinity in the South and many men would never ever drive a car. Their grandfather had a truck, father had a truck, and they were given a truck as their first vehicle. It would have made sense for the grandparent on the farm, but if you sit in front…

How heavy is the boat? A Toyota Corolla can tow up to 1500lb.

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Post by perl4ever »

StillBored wrote: post #69
make3 wrote: post #28

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I can't believe that pickups are the three most sold models in the US. That's really insane. https://www.businessinsider.com/best-selling-cars-and-trucks...

I started driving a truck 15 years ago after a number of sports cars/sedans/etc. I will never go back. Its not insane when you consider any number of factors, starting with the fact that Americans are BIG. As a large person myself (although not overweight), I'm here to tell you that what a 120 pound 5'6" person finds comfortable frequently is painful for me. Second, I spend upwards of 2+ hours a day sitting my my car…

I feel like large people requiring large cars is a relatively recent phenomenon. I had an early 90s Honda Civic as my first car which was ridiculously small by modern standards, and it had plenty of room for me at over 6 feet.
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