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'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by afarrell »

make3 wrote: post #28
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #14

This is a big deal. The F-Series is the single most popular vehicle in the US, and nearly 900K of them are sold every year! In fact, the top 3 models in the US are F-Series, Silverado, and Ram, so the environment will definitely appreciate the electrified competition the F-Series will force.

I can't believe that pickups are the three most sold models in the US. That's really insane. https://www.businessinsider.com/best-selling-cars-and-trucks...

Part of it is identity. Even now, living in central London, I really do miss my dad's Ford Ranger which we used to use for moving construction materials and scrap metal up in Maine.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by kart23 »

exabrial wrote: post #16

I really hope they don't ignore fuel cell technology or other phase change energy storage systems when they do this. Batteries are not convenient for the vast amount of their consumers in non population dense areas. (For those of you from cities, an F150 is a status symbol everywhere else in the USA).

Hydrogen gas stations ain't convenient either lmao

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by Spooky23 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #9
tomohawk wrote: post #2

Please no. A hydraulic hybrid approach would be so much more appropriate. https://www.epa.gov/cati/hydraulic-hybrid-vehicles

Why? I would estimate that well over 90% of miles driven in F150s are with no significant load. In addition while delivery trucks are driven for many hours per day, most passenger vehicles are not.

Not all buyers are fancy truck buyers. Many farm and commercial vehicles will benefit greatly from this.

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Post by thebluehawk »

anewguy9000 wrote: post #11

so after 5 years the battery in my laptop is just toast. can anyone comment on what happens to an electric car after 5 years? 10, 20? i have a truck with 350,000 kms on it. will this still be possible?

As with every manufactured good, certain things are prioritized. Your small commodity laptop battery was likely made to be cheap and light, but not necessarily built to last a long time.

That's like comparing a lawn mower engine and an engine in a car designed to last hundreds of thousands of kilometers. They just weren't designed with the same things in mind.

Tesla especially has done a fantastic job with the chemistry and cooling allowing their batteries to have long life even when they are rapidly charged (which usually wrecks batteries).

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by [deleted] »

msla wrote: post #10
jdhn wrote: post #7

I honestly think that this will help make electric vehicles more mainstream. People here in the US love their F-150's, and if Ford could make die hard truck fans switch from a V8 to a TTV6, then they're the ones that can convince the same fans consider buying a hybrid or electric F-150.

And I think the cultural problems will scuttle the whole thing. https://jalopnik.com/bro-truck-owners-are-deliberately-block... > Bro-Truck Owners Are Deliberately Blocking Tesla Supercharger Spots > I generally like people, which may be why I never fail to be surprised when I encounter people being truly unrepentant dickheads for no good reason whatsoever. That’s what seems to have been going down at a Tesla Superch…

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Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by samsolomon »

msla wrote: post #10
jdhn wrote: post #7

I honestly think that this will help make electric vehicles more mainstream. People here in the US love their F-150's, and if Ford could make die hard truck fans switch from a V8 to a TTV6, then they're the ones that can convince the same fans consider buying a hybrid or electric F-150.

And I think the cultural problems will scuttle the whole thing. https://jalopnik.com/bro-truck-owners-are-deliberately-block... > Bro-Truck Owners Are Deliberately Blocking Tesla Supercharger Spots > I generally like people, which may be why I never fail to be surprised when I encounter people being truly unrepentant dickheads for no good reason whatsoever. That’s what seems to have been going down at a Tesla Superch…

Many people bought Teslas because they were cool, not because they were helping the environment. Tesla gave consumers what they wanted AND it happened to be better for the environment.

If Ford can deliver an electric F-Series, it will have the same effect on truck owners.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by azhenley »

ghettoimp wrote: post #27
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I look forward to it. My F150 gets between 19mpg and 13mpg depending on the gas and the temperature(!) I'd love to spend less than $90 at the pump

Do you need a truck? (If so that's just fine. But I'm in Texas, and I'm pretty sure most of these folks could get by on something smaller...)

Not the OP, but I've recently had several similar discussions with friends/family about trucks when I bought my Tesla. I live in Tennessee, a popular truck area.

They claimed to like trucks for the convenience. Being able to throw stuff in the back and not have to think about whether it will fit in a car. While I do understand this advantage, it would only help me 2-3 times a year, and I aim to optimize for the 95% of daily driving.

There is definitely a social and fashion element to it too, just like there is with any brand/type of vehicle.

Re: 'We're going to electrify the F-Series,' Ford exec says

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Post by jws »

There is plenty of demand for short range commercial pickup trucks. Think of "on campus" maintenance vehicles. You need to tow equipment trailers, haul tools and bulk items, but you don't put many miles on them. A trip to the gas station is a pure waste of employee time, just charge them up at night.

Marketing may prevent Ford from leading with a short range truck, but a less than eye wateringly expensive vehicle with a lighter battery pack and less range would find buyers and make a safer, low volume launch.

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Post by lukasm »

anewguy9000 wrote: post #11

so after 5 years the battery in my laptop is just toast. can anyone comment on what happens to an electric car after 5 years? 10, 20? i have a truck with 350,000 kms on it. will this still be possible?

battery in a laptop != car battery. Different compound and different spec. 350,000 kms shouldn't be a problem for a new electric car if you are fine with lower range.

Tesla gives you 8 years warranty for the battery so 10 years shouldn't be an issue. The battery may survive 20 years.

Even if you have to replace the battery it's really nothing comparing to ICE (oil, sparks, DPF etc.)

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