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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by LeonM »

tjr225 wrote: post #107
bilbo0s wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

...except for Apple.

Apple is doing a lot better nowadays, but it's still not perfect though, for example: you can't delete iTunes on MacOS.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by nojvek »

FaceBook is scammy on many levels. Their ads business always reports very inflated numbers.

We spend $1000/mnth on FB ads. They show millions of impressions and 20k link clicks. However only 2k visits are shown by both google analytics and Mixpanel on the actual website.

It really seems like an empire that will crumble some day.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by rapnie »

bilbo0s wrote: post #60
LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

It is not just crapware, but adware too. When GDPR kicked in, I suddenly got a Foursquare consent dialog popping out of my standard Samsung Gallery app.

I still use that crap, unfortunately, but am looking for replacement for both mobile OS and smartphone (probably Fairphone with /e/ or LineageOS).

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by amelius »

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

I wouldn't worry too much about Microsoft apps.

Android itself and its integration with the Google ecosystem can also be considered malware or spyware ...

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by AlexandrB »

Retra wrote: post #86
bilbo0s wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

>why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? Why make money once when you can make it twice? Where's the incentive for businesses to give you what you want, when you can instead just take what they offer?

> Where's the incentive for businesses to give you what you want, when you can instead just take what they offer?

This is a symptom of short-term thinking in corporate leadership. Apple didn't become such a valuable brand by filling their products with third-party shit in exchange for a few bucks.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by propogandist »

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

While I didn't have microsoft apps on my S9, if you install netguard (firewall) [1] you'll see that most samsung apps are constantly trying to get a connection with facebook servers and Samsung HQ.

Apps that have no reason to have internet connectivity, like the dialer, clock app, the finder (search functionality within the stock launcher) are phoning home [!] Unfortunately Samsung phones have locked bootloaders, so there's no easy way to 'take control'.

[1] https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard

side note: I recommend installing this on all [un-rooted] android devices. It's an easy way to block most "telemetry" apps & devices collect, from the Amazon Firestick to apps running on any given device, including Google apps.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by itmeyou »

ProAm wrote: post #119
Spivak wrote: post #110

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Except you voluntarily bought the phone. The idea that interaction implies blanket consent is silly.

Im not sure they tell you all the apps that are preinstalled per carrier before you buy a phone. Ive never seen a list. You're not wrong though.

Well websites definitely don't list the trackers anywhere at all, let alone before you reach them.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Khanhanhan »

LeftTurnSignal wrote: post #98
2sk21 wrote: post #11

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I'm testing this hypothesis. I have not logged into Facebook for three months and am still getting daily emails with links to posts

If it helps, I haven't logged into FB since Jan 2018. I still get e-mails from FB about posts my friends made weeks or months ago. Never anything within the past few days though. Just now I got one for a post my friend made on Nov 28th. Not very enticing to me, lol. I can't remember how to login to my FB account (and just don't care to try), so I just set up a spam filter to catch them and delete them. Within the fir…

I tried to teach Gmail to mark emails from FB as spam but without luck. It seems though that deleting the FB account did help.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by vorpalhex »

chrismorgan wrote: post #48

This is nothing new. Google especially has been in this position since the start of Android. I have quite a list of apps that I’ve disabled but can’t uninstall: Chrome, Drive, Galaxy Apps, Gmail, Google Play Movies & TV, Google Play Music, Google Text-to-speech engine, Hancom Office Viewer, Launcher3, Memo, Photo Screensavers, S Planner, Samsung Billing, Samsung Push Service, TalkBack, Weather, YouTube. I’m going to…

Samsung devices are the worst. When I had an S8, I ran a toolkit that would constantly remove (and re-remove when it appeared again) almost all of the Samsung crapware, but even that is subpar since you need some of it like their Health product for basic phone features to work.

Samsung is by far the worst at it. I won't buy their phones anymore.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by conradfr »

cyphar wrote: post #92
gambiting wrote: post #63

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Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

Also the 5T camera is awful if you aren't using their proprietary vendor blobs. Custom ROMs like Lineage take absolutely shocking photos.

I have the 5 and the photos are awful with the stock app...
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