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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by quantum_magpie »

CaptainZapp wrote: post #51

Will they also pull such shit with KaiOS? I thought I'm a happy camper, when Nokia reissued the 8110. Ahh, no Google spyware, no Apple extorcionist paricing. How wrong I was. First of all it comes with Google Maps and Google Assistant. Then after the first software update it puts in Twitter and three crappy games, which full versions need to be bought and which cannot be removed. Their privacy statement is also noo w…

Unfortunately, iphones are exactly the same shit. Bunch of crapware that you can't remove or disable.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by isodude »

Yizahi wrote: post #21

Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

This is the reason I've stopped surfing the web and stay on news aggregate sites. It's madness how many dependencies sites have. Having Little Snitch on and not allowing general port 80/443 will make you perfectly aware.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by LeonM »

hu3 wrote: post #72
LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

If I uninstall via adb, does it usually reinstall when updating apps? Thanks for the tip.

No, at least not through the official Android Play store.

I don't know about the other application stores such as Samsung's 'Galaxy Apps' store, which is particularly intrusive. It is known for auto-installing apps even if you didn't ask for it. The best solution would be to delete Galaxy Apps store itself. Unless you use it voluntarily of course, but who does?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by kowdermeister »

isodude wrote: post #112
Yizahi wrote: post #21

Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

This is the reason I've stopped surfing the web and stay on news aggregate sites. It's madness how many dependencies sites have. Having Little Snitch on and not allowing general port 80/443 will make you perfectly aware.

Why don't you use a blocker extension?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by badpun »

tjr225 wrote: post #107
bilbo0s wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

...except for Apple.

That's what's great about them. They definitely want to be perceived as premium brand, and installing crapware or selling off your data does not go well with that image. So they don't do it.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by AlexandrB »

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever.

I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was that Apple retained control of the pre-installed apps and AT&T was not allowed to put a bunch of their own garbage on it. 12 years later the lack of crapware remains a key differentiator for iPhones. But what's most surprising is that in an industry where everyone seems keen to copy even Apple's worst ideas (no headphone jack, notches) only a few are copying some of their best.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by imrelaxed »

ForHackernews wrote: post #101
pmontra wrote: post #83

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Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

This might be the greatest prison phone ever

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by secfirstmd »

cyphar wrote: post #92
gambiting wrote: post #63

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Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

Also the 5T camera is awful if you aren't using their proprietary vendor blobs. Custom ROMs like Lineage take absolutely shocking photos.

Can confirm. You are kinda forced into using their ROM.

I just want a good Android phone with at least some level of enhanced privacy. Its such a pity Copperhead went kinda weird.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by ProAm »

Spivak wrote: post #110
ProAm wrote: post #105

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Except you voluntarily went to the site.

Except you voluntarily bought the phone. The idea that interaction implies blanket consent is silly.

Im not sure they tell you all the apps that are preinstalled per carrier before you buy a phone. Ive never seen a list. You're not wrong though.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by CodeSheikh »

Eli_P wrote: post #99

If a giant like Facebook had bought Match Group and Tinder, would it be possible for it to manipulate dating and thus breeding people up to statistically significant scale? I feel it like being "@" in somebody's Dwarf Fortress. World's so narcissistic.

What makes you think Match Group and Tinder are not already statistically matching people based on their algorithms? They are part of IAC and IAC is a giant publishing conglomerate based out of NYC.
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