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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about OnePlus?

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

And that one small time they were caught spying on all their users interactions [1] I say that as a pretty happy OnePlus 3T user.

  [1] https://fossbytes.com/oneplus-spying-users-disable/

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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> Bloomberg spoke to a U.S. owner of a Samsung Galaxy S8 who, after reading forum discussions about Samsung devices, found his own pre-loaded Facebook app could not be removed. It could only be “disabled”, with no explanation available to him as to what exactly that meant. First thing I do when I upgrade my LG phone (I've had the LG G2, LG G5, and now the LG G7, I don't think it was preinstalled in the G2 but I can't…

check the top comment on this thread - apparently you can remove apps without being root (I didn't know this until I read it) via ADB: pm uninstall -k --user 0

Note, though, that it removes the app for that specific user and when the phone is restored, the app is subsequently restored.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

I had a friend with an undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark in the Samsung web browser. So much for Samsung making 'Premium' smartphones.

No, no! You misunderstand! The "Premium" is a descriptor of what you'll pay for all the bloatware.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

...except for Apple.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

Happens everywhere, you can't uninstall "Xbox" nor "Xbox gaming overlay" from a Windows 10 machine, Microsoft old habits never truly die I guess.

I spend a lot less time (zero time most likely) in Apple’s products dealing with malware, except for that time they added that music album for some stupid reason.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

My note 9 got preinstalled with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneDrive and LinkedIn. Is that what you call crapware? I mean, I don't use LinkedIn nor OneDrive, and I only occasionally use the others, but these are high-quality pieces of software, you can completely disable these apps natively as well, they're not removed, but they don't impact the system in any way aside from taking up a small chunk of your memory.

> they're not removed, but they don't impact the system in any way aside from taking up a small chunk of your memory

How are you defining "small"‽

I have Excel installed myself and it shows as 438MB. Word is smaller at 265MB, OneDrive is surprisingly chunky compared to that at 110MB.

I've not got PowerPoint installed and Play store doesn't seem to currently display space requirements of non-installed apps (which I'm sure it previously did).

That might be small on your 128Mb+ device (IIRC the Note 9 doesn't come in smaller variants) but if they are getting pre-installed on 64 or 32Mb devices too, that is more than enough to be a significant issue for users who don't particularly have use for them at all but who do want to use their storage for music/photos/video/... instead of unused apps.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

Except you voluntarily went to the site.

Except you voluntarily bought the phone.

The idea that interaction implies blanket consent is silly.

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