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Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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post #63

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> pretend nothing happened Sure, but in the hull of the spacecraft that's leaking my air away, I'd still put a wad a chewing gum in the hole to patch it.

As someone who fought and lost a war with holes in an inflated mattress I have to say that even one atmosphere is a surprisingly powerful amount of pressure when applied over a long period.

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Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#84

In the museum on Nantuckut there is a display devoted to the USS Essex , a whaling ship (it is the ship that the whale rams, I think). One incindent that made an impression on me was a sailor, who was driven insane by boredom, and sabotaged the ship, just for something to happen. I understand space to be unbelivably boring.

the cosmonauts remain on soyuz for like 6 hours until they dock, mostly confined and executnig orders. whatever boredom probably comes later when they 're in the station

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#86

Anyone who has ever held a drill can see in the pic that it was drilled from the inside. That means nothing in relation to when, where or who did said drilling.

Hmmm, what if aliens drilled it from the outside, made it look like it's drilled from the inside and dispersed a super virus, that will kill us all.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#87
post #48

Anyone have any good theories as to how this could have happened? Is it really plausible that it was "accidentally" drilled during manufacture, and not detected? I mean, surely there must be some kind of testing step where they test that the craft is completely airtight. And no one is going to be drilling anything after that point.

There is a limited number of possibilities

1. Done by a right handed person on space (crew) or on earth (builders/crew/other).

2. Done accidentally (a drill machine slips) or with a purpose.

3. The purpose can be seen as good or bad for the mission. The result here was neither good nor very bad, so can be neutral also.

4. A neutral purpose can still serve a role as a tool to alter the status of the cosmonauts either punishing them or improving their situation (like in: returning home faster or somebody drills a small hole to be able to fix it later as an hero).

They should look for shaving cream in trash and check it.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#88
post #48

Anyone have any good theories as to how this could have happened? Is it really plausible that it was "accidentally" drilled during manufacture, and not detected? I mean, surely there must be some kind of testing step where they test that the craft is completely airtight. And no one is going to be drilling anything after that point.

Well, it had been sealed with glue. So probably someone really did accidentally drill in the wrong place, sealed the hole with glue, and hoped nobody would notice. But then eventually thermal cycling borked the seal.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#89

Cant they determinate the point in time when the air of the hole started acting as a thrust vector?

No need, they can determine the point in time the air started escaping from looking at the internal pressure.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#90

If it was deliberate then it sound like someone who doesn't know wtf they were / are doing. That rules out the astronauts, seems to point to someone on the ground, pre-launch, with nefarious intentions but a lack of knowledge on how best to execute that ill intent. Maybe?

I’d guess incompetence over malice
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