Apparently J. Peterson is building something to solve this problem.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWz1RDVoqw4
I wonder how they handle the payment part.
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Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hopefully someone brings forth a patreon replacement. I'm not keen on how they've been acting in the last month and I kind of want to close my account, but I also want to continue supporting the groups I support.
This has got me thinking, what if someone created a Patreon account to fund the creation of a Patreon replacement? If nothing else, I would appreciate the irony.
I think Gab.ai did, and IIRC it was suspended within an hour.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The most bizarre part, to me, is that it feels like this should just be a part of modern banking. "Hey if you like my stuff consider adding my to your monthly payments. I guess Patreon provides a walled garden of premium content for patrons, but I'm skeptical that's universally desired by creators. The few I know don't do any of that.
> "Hey if you like my stuff consider adding my to your monthly payments.... Banks specifically DON'T want you doing that because they don't want undesirable businesses funneling money in and out of their banks. I'm sure there are different legal liabilities for different places for different undesirable businesses with that kind of thing. It's probably a potential minefield to let anyone do that indiscriminately. Pro…
Banks specifically DON'T want you doing that because they don't want undesirable businesses funneling money in and out of their banks
Not sure I understand this objection - the recipient of such a transfer would already have to have an account at another bank, and that bank would have to do the full AML/KYC checks anyway. There should be no issues with someone with an account at reputable bank A sending a regular payment to an account at reputable bank B for any purpose.
Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me
#44This same story played out 10 or so years ago with Wikileaks, PayPal, and major card processors and banks. The sad realization was that private companies can control who gets to speak very effectively. Lots of people hoped cryptocurrency would fix this, but so far it hasn't.
This is my attempt at micro contributions using cryptocurrency. Would love any feedback.
https://blog.teddyhyde.com/2017/10/11/take-back-your-blog-ju...
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#45Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…
>Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. I think the real problem is upstream: The payment processors. These companies set the rules and everybody else has to play along or risk being cut off from customers. Any competitor will face the same issues sooner or later.
Not if it uses cryptocurrency, right? The middleman disappears in that case.
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#46Patreon is very likely on mandatory US Holiday today. By the time they read this thread on Wednesday, it will be far too late for them to fend off the mob. They deserve one business day to reply, and they won't have had that until Wednesday at the _earliest_. Be kind. EDIT: If your reply is "they should reply 24/7/365", ask yourself whether it makes financial sense to staff a support team on Christmas at triple-overt…
There is no such thing as a mandatory US holiday.
Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me
#47This same story played out 10 or so years ago with Wikileaks, PayPal, and major card processors and banks. The sad realization was that private companies can control who gets to speak very effectively. Lots of people hoped cryptocurrency would fix this, but so far it hasn't.
This is my attempt at micro contributions using cryptocurrency. Would love any feedback. https://blog.teddyhyde.com/2017/10/11/take-back-your-blog-ju...
Or check it out in action here:
Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems OP also missed this gem: > This suspension came between 18 and 47 days ago based on my missed payouts. No review has taken place in that time... Patreon has had weeks to do this review, yet they haven't communicated or done anything.
True. But he just tweeted today, and it quickly hit HN front page.
I agree with your basic point about not grabbing the pitchforks out just yet, but wouldn't it be nice if online businesses had to be accountable in a reasonable timeframe to all of their customers (especially when it comes to handling money that is due to the customer) and not just people who happen to have large twitter followings?
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#49Trying hard to emulate PayPal behaviour :/
Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me
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>Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. I think the real problem is upstream: The payment processors. These companies set the rules and everybody else has to play along or risk being cut off from customers. Any competitor will face the same issues sooner or later.
Not if it uses cryptocurrency, right? The middleman disappears in that case.
The middleman just becomes the exchanges (who also have to deal with payment processors).