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Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game publishers like Matrix Games, Slithrine, and X Plane host their own game purchasing and delivery services: greater control and no cut taken away.

Perhaps a more feasible and maybe probable approach is for another service like WordPress or SquareSpace to offer patronage functionality (as in, offering recurring payments and exclusive contents for patrons).

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…

The most bizarre part, to me, is that it feels like this should just be a part of modern banking.

"Hey if you like my stuff consider adding my to your monthly payments.

I guess Patreon provides a walled garden of premium content for patrons, but I'm skeptical that's universally desired by creators. The few I know don't do any of that.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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post #2

Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…

Hopefully someone brings forth a patreon replacement. I'm not keen on how they've been acting in the last month and I kind of want to close my account, but I also want to continue supporting the groups I support.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…

The most bizarre part, to me, is that it feels like this should just be a part of modern banking. "Hey if you like my stuff consider adding my to your monthly payments. I guess Patreon provides a walled garden of premium content for patrons, but I'm skeptical that's universally desired by creators. The few I know don't do any of that.

They also bring a bunch of small credit card charges into a single charge to save a bit of a fee. Not sure if they pass the savings on or not.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…

The most bizarre part, to me, is that it feels like this should just be a part of modern banking. "Hey if you like my stuff consider adding my to your monthly payments. I guess Patreon provides a walled garden of premium content for patrons, but I'm skeptical that's universally desired by creators. The few I know don't do any of that.

I think the core of Patreon's value is tying the payment to exclusive contents and access to patrons-only forums. That's why I think WordPress or SquareSpace would be suited to capturing Patreon's market. Creators can already create web stores in SquareSpace, it shouldn't be too much work on top of it to create recurring payments. It'd be more work, though, to wall off certain portions of the site to different payment schedules. And that's the real value.

One thing that Patreon does have that would be harder to recreate is the gamification of patronage. Like comparing subscriber counts on YouTube, Patreon makes it easy to compare different creators' Patreon income which I think serves as a rough estimate of clout.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…

Hopefully someone brings forth a patreon replacement. I'm not keen on how they've been acting in the last month and I kind of want to close my account, but I also want to continue supporting the groups I support.

This has got me thinking, what if someone created a Patreon account to fund the creation of a Patreon replacement? If nothing else, I would appreciate the irony.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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The most bizarre part, to me, is that it feels like this should just be a part of modern banking. "Hey if you like my stuff consider adding my to your monthly payments. I guess Patreon provides a walled garden of premium content for patrons, but I'm skeptical that's universally desired by creators. The few I know don't do any of that.

I think the core of Patreon's value is tying the payment to exclusive contents and access to patrons-only forums. That's why I think WordPress or SquareSpace would be suited to capturing Patreon's market. Creators can already create web stores in SquareSpace, it shouldn't be too much work on top of it to create recurring payments. It'd be more work, though, to wall off certain portions of the site to different paymen…

Do they? I thought income went private some time in 2018. I did use to enjoy looking at my favourite creators to see that indeed they were getting paid enough.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Patreon sounds like something relatively easy to replicate. Effectively every utility implements what patron provides. It's essentially just scheduling recurring payments, with a discussion forum attached. More behavior like what we've been seeing Patreon do lately, and I can see larger creators shifting to hosing their own patronage services. Essentially the same reason why EA, Blizzard, and even more niche game pub…

Hopefully someone brings forth a patreon replacement. I'm not keen on how they've been acting in the last month and I kind of want to close my account, but I also want to continue supporting the groups I support.

Numerous ones already exist. Their moat is very thin.

Re: Patreon suspended my account. They have not notified me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the core of Patreon's value is tying the payment to exclusive contents and access to patrons-only forums. That's why I think WordPress or SquareSpace would be suited to capturing Patreon's market. Creators can already create web stores in SquareSpace, it shouldn't be too much work on top of it to create recurring payments. It'd be more work, though, to wall off certain portions of the site to different paymen…

Do they? I thought income went private some time in 2018. I did use to enjoy looking at my favourite creators to see that indeed they were getting paid enough.

It's configurable by the user: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000392243-H...
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