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Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by pmarreck »

nostrademons wrote: post #125
ineedasername wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's entered the mainstream less than 10 years ago. It surpassed the film industry not 2 years" I don't know how you could think this unless you mean something like esports gaming. Gaming has been mainstream for quite some time, as early as the late 80's I'd say, complete with tv show, toy, and movie tie ins. PC gaming was a little less prevalent, they cost a lot more than consoles of the era.

When I was in middle/high school in the mid-late 90s, I was addicted to the precursors of today MMORPGs (back when everything was text-based), and my career plan consisted of founding a gaming company. My mother successfully (for a time) dissuaded me, saying "Who has time to play games? Once you have money to pay for games, you'll be working at a job for most of your waking hours." A couple years out of college, I ac…

Do you have kids?

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by goldenkey »

sbarre wrote: post #229
goldenkey wrote: post #207

Discord banned my account a few weeks ago when a user reported a one word joke I'd made. Here's the scenario: Troll: "Whats your age?" Me: "9" Troll reports messages to Discord after completing the baiting technique (clearly has done this before to other people.) Discord immediately disables my account despite the fact that I 1) paid for Nitro with a credit card in my name and have an ongoing subscription to Nitro 2)…

Odds are that their reporting and content moderation services are outsourced to companies that are given guidelines and follow them strictly, with no room for interpretation or nuance. No one in that support org is going to go cross-reference your account details and look that stuff up because (1) they hopefully don't have access to it and (2) no offence, you're not important enough to get some kind of special treatm…

There shouldn't be a reason you get banned from a chat client except for abuse. I don't see your point making sense except from maybe a sheltered millenials curated softy platform perspective shaped by the centralized services like YouTube and Twitter.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by shawn »

goldenkey wrote: post #207

Discord banned my account a few weeks ago when a user reported a one word joke I'd made. Here's the scenario: Troll: "Whats your age?" Me: "9" Troll reports messages to Discord after completing the baiting technique (clearly has done this before to other people.) Discord immediately disables my account despite the fact that I 1) paid for Nitro with a credit card in my name and have an ongoing subscription to Nitro 2)…

The irony of you complaining about a ban while calling me deranged for doing so is almost too much.

Maybe you should take a break from the internet for awhile and focus on yourself and your cats. Doing that helped me after dealing with your nastygram.

You joked about something illegal and got the book thrown at you. “My services were in jeopardy as a direct result of what I said.” Well yes, that’s what happens when you joke about illegal activity.

“This company does not deserve our business.” What happened to you was due to your actions, not theirs. You should be grateful they will even unban you. Some services will simply tell you to take your business elsewhere.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by int_x »

nikanj wrote: post #222
legionof7 wrote: post #139

I've used Discord for a long time and my previous startup was even part of the Hypesquad program. However, I'm really concerned with their views around E2E encryption. We've asked many times for an end-to-end encryption service. This became the #3 most upvoted request ( https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/3600... ). Unfortunately, their "rejection" and user comments were deleted after they switche…

Pretty much every major messaging product with e2e encryption has had child pornography and terrorism claims made against it. Maybe they want to avoid that publicity, even if it costs them some of the most paranoid users?

Thats what their "excuse" is, yes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/8nzb5d/comment/...

To be honest, I agree with the people saying that this isnt discords responsibility. The real baddies are already using other services, and IIRC Discord has handed over user data for other cases as well

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by leetcrew »

freddie_mercury wrote: post #165
ineedasername wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what bar you're using for "mainstream", but if it doesn't include videogames in the late 80's/early 90's, it's too high. If being more popular than any other single toy short of a ball isn't mainstream, nothing is. Sure, they're even more popular now, and they may be more popular still in some areas of the world, but that doesn't make them not mainstream 25 years ago. as reference, according to wiktionar…

To add to this: Skyrim sold 30 million copies. That's more than all but 7 music albums ever made. Wii Sports (12 years old) sold 80 million copies. That's more than any album ever. Individual videogames regularly sell more than MUSIC and have done so for well over a decade. I don't know what definition of mainstream there is where something sells 80 million copies and still isn't mainstream.

comparing sales of specific video games to specific albums seems like a weird comparison. for every one purchase of an album, there will be many people who hear it without purchasing it (on the radio, in restaurants, while shopping, etc.). the only legal way to experience a videogame without purchasing a copy is to play at a friend's house. games like fortnite might rival the most famous pop stars today in cultural significance, but I don't think you could say the same for GTA vs Britney Spears in the mid 00's.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by leetcrew »

ascar wrote: post #187
ThomPete wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Games became mainstream within the last 20 years or so. It wasnt mainstream in the 90’ies which is where i predicted that one say you would be able to score girls by being a famous gamer.

That's still a feat today, maybe albeit of scoring with girls that are your fans in the first place.

sure, but can you imagine anything like this video happening in the 90s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZggcP1P1gU

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by crocodiletears »

elefanten wrote: post #123
crocodiletears wrote: post #66

Discord isn't just for gamers. Though that's where it started, its robust community management features have made it's a go-to for online creators looking to engage with their audiences. It's especially prominent among Youtubers, and is increasingly becoming seen in some circles as a safer alternative to public forums like Reddit for topical discourse. This is, in my opinion because there's no formal discoverability…

Do you know of any comparison between use of Discord and Slack for these kind of community management use cases? Is either one used more and what are the relevant feature differences?

I honestly couldn't speak to differences between the two services. I used Slack for one semi-professional community in particular a few years ago, but have since used exclusively Discord, due to its ubiquity. I do recall that I immediately preferred Discord's UX, but I can't remember anything that impressed me in particular.

As for anecdata, I have yet to stumble upon any active community still using Slack in the last couple years, but I am aware of several Slack groups that cater to industry-specific demographics, though since they require membership in their particular industries I cannot speak to how active they are or whether they've since changed platforms.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by ineedasername »

falcor84 wrote: post #192
x220 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it different when adults spend excess mental energy on video games instead of their career? Both are inherently meaningless and illusory.

Careers are inherently meaningless?! Would you mind elaborating? The way I see it, advancing in one's career is about gaining more and more skills and experience to merit a higher paycheck, which is a proxy for the value one provides to their employers and the market in general. The proxy is definitely not perfect, but it's the best one we have. So under this view a career is inherently meaningless, at least if you a…

Meaning as determined by salary strikes me a particularly perverse method of determining personal meaning or broader value to society. It seems fairly close to the prosperity gospel, where a person is deemed to be in god's favor as divined by looking at a person's wealth. Prosperity gospel has some very nasty corollaries, such as that poor people do not have god's favor, and lacking god's favor must be evil. Or in your terms, they lack meaning in their life or value to society.

Re: Discord raises $150M, surpassing $2B valuation

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Post by z3t4 »

Aeolun wrote: post #126
scoggs wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well to me the question is: How many too-young-to-work online gamers are there who have parents willing to pay for their subscriptions / games / in-game purchases? We already know that these kids who don't have enough (or any of their own) money have a computer, internet access, and the ability to purchase all of the peripherals and a game needed to play. What's making companies stop and say, "We don't think the peop…

I certainly expect children to stop being born. Looking at how expensive it is to raise even one, I quickly see it become an upper class thing to be able to afford a child.

most people will have children anyway.
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