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Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #36
snacklesnapp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Copy-paste is not locked behind the VirtualBox Extension Pack. It requires the Guest Additions, which are completely different from the Extension Pack. Extension Pack gives things such as USB passthrough.

It's kinda weird that VirtualPC way back when is the only VM software I recall using that had copy-paste without guest extensions. Granted, it just typed text into the keyboard, but it was really handy none the less.

I've taken to a macro that automatically "types" the contents of the clipboard when I hit a hotkey. Super useful with VMs and remote access.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by self_awareness »

zapzupnz wrote: post #42

Holy cow, what an ugly user interface. I mean, it wasn't exactly a Matisse before, but it's just hideous now on macOS. Who thought "easy to use" rhymed with "make the icons look like nearly identical and somewhat indistinguishable blue squares"? Who decided that an already rather unprofessional drawing of Tux needed to be transformed into Baby's First Vector Drawing™? And why, when previous versions already did a sem…

I agree with you.

More than that, drawing is bugged, and sometimes it won't fill out empty spaces in the window.

Or, another times, it draws too much and sometimes it covers buttons on the toolbar, so I see a beautiful grey rectangle instead of the toolbar.

It's slow as hell. I wish it was done in Electron, then it would be faster.

Scrolling through the VM log is very slow.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by organsnyder »

robert_foss wrote: post #10

Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/

Even worse: Oracle is going around and threatening to sue enterprises that show traffic to the extensions download site from their IP blocks. Happened recently at a previous employer of mine.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by cm2187 »

akulbe wrote: post #99
cm2187 wrote: post #86

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But can't the poor souls stuck on windows use hyper-v and RDP into the vm?

Can't you only RDP (and here is the qualifier) out-of-the-box with an "Enhanced Guest" VM, like what comes with some of the later Windows 10 builds, like 1809? Otherwise, don't you have to do everything by hand to configured xrdp on the Linux guest?

Well technically hyper-v comes with its own terminal, but granted it kind of sucks and I wouldn't use continuously.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by organsnyder »

maaaats wrote: post #4
tmn007 wrote: post #3

Be careful about VirtualBox Extensions which is non free on commercial environments. Oracle is hunting non compliance and VB provides them with lots of telemetry.

> Be careful about VirtualBox Extensions Don't you mean: Be careful to follow the licensing for whatever products you use.

The extension pack is extremely easy to download by accident: for instance, it comes in the default Chocolately installation unless you pass a flag to disable it. With Oracle actively going around and sending threatening letters to enterprises with extensions download traffic coming from their IP blocks, it's easy to accidentally get in a bad situation.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by jason_slack »

coldtea wrote: post #82
jason_slack wrote: post #71

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Sorry. I have never heard of this. I switched to VB earlier this year for simple home use testing apps and working with large data sets. VMWare Fusion just caused me to many problems. Can you explain how I need to protect myself?

You switched to VB because VMWare Fusion was problematic? That sounds like exchanging a Toyota for an Edsel.

Well when Fusion doesn’t run, vm’s become corrupt and VMWare answers your support query with “your new MacBook Pro must have a hardware issue”. Yes, I did switch. They lost my $80/year for upgrades and I have been a user since v3.

And Virtual Box has been more reliable than Fusion ever was for me.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by amyjess »

krylon wrote: post #13
porker wrote: post #9

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How do you license them? I've never seen a "Buy now" link, only the text about "Free for personal use" every time.

I vaguely recall that this was discussed here on HN a while ago and somebody who had actually tried to buy the necessary license reported that Oracle would not sell them the license; IIRC, the sales person told them to "just use it, we don't care", or something along those lines. Which is very problematic, of course, without something in writing, and given Oracle's reputation.

If you live in a one-party state, secretly record them and then if Oracle threatens to sue, show them the recording and remind them of promissory estoppel.

(IANAL!)

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by shawnz »

teekert wrote: post #100
shawnz wrote: post #95

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It's a seperate download, not anything that you can get with the normal VirtualBox installer. On an unrelated note, have you considered a third-party X server for windows, like Xming or VcXsrv, for use with your WSL apps?

Yes, it works, still doesn't really come near the experience of a full VM with dropdown terminals and sshfs in the filemanager etc.

Have you tried the "one large window" mode rather than the "multiple windows" mode? That could be closer to what you want.

See: https://i2.wp.com/www.maxtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/0...

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by SyneRyder »

octopoc wrote: post #45
bakery2k wrote: post #43

Is anyone using VirtualBox on the desktop? Specifically, to run Linux/macOS/Windows guests on a macOS host? Would you recommend it? Or is the best option VMware Fusion, Parallels, or something else?

I recently got a Mac and wanted to avoid the cost of Parallels, so I tried VirtualBox first. It was insanely slow. Like, I would be typing text into a VM and I would type a line, then wait and watch the characters appear. This happened on a 2018 Macbook Pro host with 32GB RAM. This happened on both Windows and Ubuntu guests. So, I tried Parallels and it was so fast I can't really tell the difference between the host…

Is there anything as fast as Parallels on Windows? I've just switched back to Windows (dislike the new MBP keyboards yada yada), and Hyper-V on my 2018 X1 feels ridiculously slow compared to Parallels even on my Mid-2012 Mac.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Post by gaius »

teekert wrote: post #65
robin_reala wrote: post #31

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Linux only by the looks of things though.

Exactly, I'm upvoting this to prevent poor souls stuck on Windows from looking for these nice solutions...

WSL has supplanted VirtualBox for actually all of my use cases.
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