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Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/

Linux only by the looks of things though.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Be careful about VirtualBox Extensions which is non free on commercial environments. Oracle is hunting non compliance and VB provides them with lots of telemetry.

Uhm, this scares me a bit, how do you of you have the Extensions or not?

Would be nice if the Windows Subsystem for Linux started officially supporting graphical apps or a full VM.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Be careful about VirtualBox Extensions which is non free on commercial environments. Oracle is hunting non compliance and VB provides them with lots of telemetry.

> Be careful about VirtualBox Extensions Don't you mean: Be careful to follow the licensing for whatever products you use.

This is Oracle. The Extension Pack has additional features particularly valuable in an enterprise environment, BUT there is no way to actually buy a commercial license and as per some other threads Oracle salespeople are advising enterprise customers to just use it anyway.

Oracle setting a licensing trap they can spring at their whim? Perish the thought!

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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> Added support for using Hyper-V as the fallback execution core on Windows host, to avoid inability to run VMs at the price of reduced performance Any comparisons between hyper-v and virtual box performance? I would have assumed hyper-v would be more performant.

Tested them quite a bit about 18 month ago and hyper-v was slightly faster in the benchmarks I ran (especially when it came to IO), but was a laggy stuttering mess when trying to use a Linux desktop.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Avoid VirtualBox and becoming trapped in the non-free & personal use only extension by using one of the very decent open source alternatives Boxes[1] or virt-manager[2] [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Boxes [2] https://virt-manager.org/

Sorry but it could be (even remotely closely) to a Linux only solution.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

sometimes you just want a simple vb ubuntu vm. however virtualbox locks copy paste from host to vm support behind extensions which are free only for personal use(which you are using but good luck proving that in court)

No. Copy-paste is not locked behind the VirtualBox Extension Pack. It requires the Guest Additions, which are completely different from the Extension Pack. Extension Pack gives things such as USB passthrough.

It's kinda weird that VirtualPC way back when is the only VM software I recall using that had copy-paste without guest extensions. Granted, it just typed text into the keyboard, but it was really handy none the less.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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> Added support for using Hyper-V as the fallback execution core on Windows host, to avoid inability to run VMs at the price of reduced performance Any comparisons between hyper-v and virtual box performance? I would have assumed hyper-v would be more performant.

In a straight up VirtualBox vs Hyper-V scenario the I/O performance on Hyper-V is a lot better, and that's not based on contrived benchmarks either.

I've used both for full time development. It only took about a day of using VirtualBox with sync'd folders to look for alternative solutions due to how bad it was about 4 years ago (not sure about today). Also, VMWare Player is / was so much faster than VirtualBox, and is on par with Hyper-V's performance.

Currently I use Hyper-V today because it's the back-end for Docker for Windows. I couldn't be happier with the performance.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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How do you license them? I've never seen a "Buy now" link, only the text about "Free for personal use" every time.

Good question. They don't want to sell them. Just based on the website the licenses are only sold in 5000 unit blocks. The fact that they didn't want to take my money forced me to learn KVM and libvirt. That turned out to work better and be way easier to manage remotely.

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Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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How do you license them? I've never seen a "Buy now" link, only the text about "Free for personal use" every time.

You go to the download page, see the link about the licence, click the FAQ link, and then click the store link, it's £36/user

Thanks! Shame it's minimum order 100 user licenses.

Re: VirtualBox 6.0 released

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Too bad none of these two bugs has been fixed: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/9069 https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12597 (cannot use `sendfile` in nginx inside a virtualbox, due to an eight year old bug)

Yeah it's crazy that it's not fixed yet. About 5 years when I was using VMs for my development environment I remember that bug causing all sorts of issues with assets not loading correctly.

It's also why I recommend people avoid Docker Toolbox like the plague since it uses VirtualBox under the hood. Either use Docker for Windows (if you have Windows 10 Pro), or roll your own VMWare Player (free) VM which doesn't have that bug, has way better I/O performance in the end and isn't much harder to set up.

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