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Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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post #71

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This is almost undeniable. Seems like everyone and their mother are using vscode, typescript is huge, .NET Core is FOSS, PowerShell is now open source, etc etc. The Language Server Protocol has revolutionized IDEs in general. And now that they own GitHub (and their projects like Atom), it seems like the entire FOSS developer workflow is likely to be from MS-derived projects. Which I'm sure they are hoping will transl…

They can browse your private projects though so nobody in the right mind would use them to run cutting edge business.

Github Enterprise is self hosted which eliminates that issue

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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post #80

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Unfortunately Bizspark is only available though accelerators, incubators, and VCs now.

Bizspark doesn't exist anymore, it's a single program called Microsoft for Startups now, and it does allow you to apply directly: https://startups.microsoft.com/en-us/faq/

But it's only for those developing an "innovative, technical solution unique in the market with a B2B focus that will benefit from access to enterprise customers," according to that link. IIRC the old BizSpark didn't have as strict of a B2B focus.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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They understood the GUI couldn’t be everything but NIH was definitely in full swing at that time. It was enforced from the top: If you wanted to use an external product and MSFT had a competitor you needed VP approval. Same went for Open Source. Only the most senior people would even attempt it, and it was understood they were spending political capital. The one place this didn’t apply was your choice of code editor.…

As someone who uses Vim on relatively large files daily (500k - 1.5M lines), where were the hangups?

The speed of navigating the code base. Ctags existed but people using SlickEdit or Source Insight were able to navigate the code base dramatically faster. As a new hire I wasn't going to get code annotations emitted as part of the build, so an editor with a proper parser was key.

Really had nothing to do with the size of the file.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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Most of those GUIs are just wrappers for the CLI to begin with. Heck, the default installation of windows does not even have a GUI. People ahem really need to update their thinking of what it means to be Windows.

That's misleading at best (GUI windows apps that technically can be emulated from the commandline often practically cannot be--CLI tools or the registry/config-file interactions required to perform actions that are clearly exposed and well-documented in the GUI often have nonexistent or terrible documentation. In even marginally complex apps, this puts the effort required to script the functionality of the GUI on par…

How is it misleading at all? Hyper-V Manager for example is literally a wrapper for Powershell commands.

Virtually all Windows administration can be done entirely in Powershell.

And like I said, the literal default installation of Windows does not even include a GUI.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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Now all they have to do is switch their kernel to linux, their gui to kde and get their office suite to LibreOffice, and Windows will be the perfect computer.

Windows ux is better out of the box than on any Linux so far, it's really polished. The office suite is also much better than alternatives. So just switching the kernel to Linux would be enough and super winrar.

While the UI isn't bad, I'd argue that the UX is absolutely awful out of the box.

- Notifications are non-stop until you turn them off. And, even when you turn everything off, there's system notifications that you can never turn off.

- The start menu is god awful. Why they decided to replace the easy-to-use Windows start menu with this animated abomination is beyond my understanding. Our office puts classic menu on all new pc's because of past complaints.

- The settings are all needlessly verbose. This isn't exactly new to this version of Windows, but they could really take a page out of Apple's book when it comes to changing system settings.

- And, they've went the extra step to make sure you don't change Edge as the default browser. Not exactly user friendly.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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Microsoft is becoming the defacto leader in open source.

If you have money you can be a leader of anything, but without heart and motivated by greed are you really?

Clearly not true. Microsoft had a position of industry dominance in the mid to late 1990s, money was never in short supply. They couldn't be the leader of open source back then because of their culture and attitude toward open source. The open source industry knew it and the dislike was mutual. Even if they had wanted to, they couldn't have purchased loyalty from open source users & developers, while simultaneously behaving as they were.

If talking about heart and greed is all that's left to burn Microsoft with at this point, then they must really be knocking it out of the park.

Re: Windows Server 2019 Includes OpenSSH

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That's misleading at best (GUI windows apps that technically can be emulated from the commandline often practically cannot be--CLI tools or the registry/config-file interactions required to perform actions that are clearly exposed and well-documented in the GUI often have nonexistent or terrible documentation. In even marginally complex apps, this puts the effort required to script the functionality of the GUI on par…

How is it misleading at all? Hyper-V Manager for example is literally a wrapper for Powershell commands. Virtually all Windows administration can be done entirely in Powershell. And like I said, the literal default installation of Windows does not even include a GUI.

What do you consider the "literal default installation"?
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