Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th • Hacker News Board

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by mikekchar » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 3:23 AM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #417

mikekchar wrote: post #371

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Complete tangent, but Japan never had any censorship rules before WWII. When the Americans occupied Japan they imposed some laws to help rebuild the country. You can debate whether the laws were good or not. For example, there are many laws around farming geared to ensure that small independent farmers could survive and that Japan would rebuild its food infrastructure (which it kind of abandoned before the war, prefe…

> Japan never had any censorship rules before WWII This is not true. The obscenity censorship law dates back to 1907, and the enforcement of it for erotic content was also completely detatched from the occupation. https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/4pss4u/why_is_porn_i...

Thanks for that. It's frustrating to make mistakes like that -- especially since I do my best to remove common misunderstandings about Japan. I'm as vulnerable as the rest :-( I really appreciate getting better information!

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by freehunter » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 3:25 AM UTC

sparkie wrote: post #419

freehunter wrote: post #412

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Just looked in "new", and every one of those you've listed which are there are downvoted to zero. Care to prove my point further?

Just because they're not popular doesn't mean they're not on the whitelist. Care to move the goalposts further?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by oyeanuj » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 3:38 AM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #145

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It looks like a perfect moment to announce a replacement service, complete with a one-click content transfer tool. Something $3/mo, $30/y — and we'll save all your precious work without hassle! Could work for a significant portion of the audience.

Don't you happen to know any alternatives BTW?

We're building Shuffle which isn't a direct replacement but is designed to be a home for your interests. We've had a lot of folks come from Tumblr today. You can check us out at https://shuffle.do

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by sparkie » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 3:38 AM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #422

sparkie wrote: post #419

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Just looked in "new", and every one of those you've listed which are there are downvoted to zero. Care to prove my point further?

Just because they're not popular doesn't mean they're not on the whitelist. Care to move the goalposts further?

Well, my original comment was making a point that r/politics has become exactly what Digg became. A cesspit of bury brigades with a political aim.

I wasn't entirely sure what was/wasn't on their whitelist because I don't waste my time in that cesspit.

I'd be willing to bet money that they're not just "unpopular", but that there's a functional army of bots equipped to down-vote those domains automatically.

It doesn't matter anyway. It's not like somebody expecting a nonpartisan commentary will bother going to r/politics anyway. Anyone can clearly see it is full of only left opinions, and anything remotely right-leaning is heavily downvoted.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 3:54 AM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #317

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> Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? Are you serious? Have you heard of qanon, anti-vax, scientology, pyrmaid schemes? We all are vulnerable to this stuff.

I know this is getting downvoted, but the odds are very good that we each believe something that future generations will correctly see as obviously idiotic. History is just full of things where large fractions of society were wrong. It seems extremely unlikely that this is the moment in history where that stops. I think it's fair to say that kids are more vulnerable, though, for the same reason that they also get phy…

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Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by ux-app » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 3:55 AM UTC

awakeasleep wrote: post #350

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This is literally the viewpoint that is the problem. Just because you don't like the kind of kinks and fetishes that other people have doesn't mean it isn't healthy or valuable. Especially on a place like tumblr, where communities are built around these sexual interests. It isn't some industry imposing artificial expectations on an unwilling populace. It's people who are genuinely into such a crazy variety of things…

I don't believe that. There is research showing that online pornography distorts people's views of sex, making people less satisfied with their real life partners, and pushing their fetishes into more extreme territory. This is sex negative, and harmful. And I believe we can see the results of this with all the headlines talking about how people are having less sex. A larger and larger percent of orgasms are happenin…

>There is research showing that online pornography distorts people's views of sex

I'd cautiously agree with this wrt commercial porn, where the negative effects, coercion etc are well documented and "sex negative" as you describe.

Tumbler is full of OC. How on earth could this be seen as "sex negative"? These are adults, freely sharing their kinks. Not sure there's much room for outrage here.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by behringer » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 4:11 AM UTC

51lver wrote: post #347

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The lack of critical thinking skills is a mental illness.

Some people are strong willed, some people are followers. Some people are deep thinkers, others are quick wits. Some people plan, and some only live in the moment. Everyone has different tools they use to navigate the world.

Some people are going to grow up and be out on their own, and not have you around to censor for them. Everyone needs critical thinking skills. Without it, you're going to become a sucker, sooner or later.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by zanny » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 4:19 AM UTC

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #390

pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

While "Tumblr is for porn" seems to be received wisdom, let me play devil's advocate (angel's advocate?): most of us are just taking that for granted without digging in. In 2016, Motherboard actually did the digging, and discovered a few interesting numbers, categorizing 130M Tumblr users into "producers" of porn, "consumers" (those who follow the producers), and "unintentionally exposed" users who don't follow porn…

The problem is that the lack of content moderation was largely a selling point for the platform. Without explicit material its basically Instragram without Facebook owning it and with a worse UI.

It might be slow but if you have no strong reason to be on Tumblr besides everyone having been on Tumblr you will see a slowly building migration away from Tumblr.

And losing 1/4 the user base overnight is a great way to kick off that migration. It only takes one blog in a web of follows jumping ship to motivate all the other producers and the fans of that blog and its related blogs to move to alternatives.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by zanny » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 4:21 AM UTC

duxup wrote: post #154

pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

It seems strange to own Tumblr... and then reject a large chunk of it. Why even own it then?

Yahoo bought Tumblr for completely irrational reasons years ago and it became dead weight.

Of course now they can't split it back off to live on its own - they'll just kill it instead.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by rmykhajliw » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 4:26 AM UTC

Half or more Tumblr traffic comes for adult content, without this, it's just another platform to publish your I don't even know the purpose of Tumblr now: images, thoughts ? I suppose the market for Tumblr has changed and died - Medium has replaced tumblr everywhere.