Armageddon Looms over World Chess Champs after Carlsen’s Shocking Decision

Post by rurban » Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 4:16 PM UTC

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> So it actually is a draw! (sort of) There's been a tournament of top engines playing out the position after the draw -- I think black (Carlsen) won 11 games and white won 2 games, with the rest draws. So this declaration of the lack of advantage just isn't true. > just take things to the tiebreakers where Carlsen has a significant advantage. But he had a significant advantage on the board, too. The question is the…

Just take a look at their relative rankings though. Caruana may have previously been blitz champion but his current blitz elo is ~170 points lower than Carlsen who iirc is the current blitz champion. I'd like to see that same process repeated for all the other draws from the points of highest advantage and right before the draw too if we're going to be using it to evaluate the decision to draw. Not sure how closely t…

Post by mlthoughts2018 » Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 6:17 PM UTC

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This reply borders on incoherent to me. What is best effort if not choosing the course of action you deem gives you the best chance to win? Exhausting yourself and risking a blunder in the final classical match just because other people want to see the spectacle of it? That doesn’t seem like “effort” at all. Why do soccer players make back passes from offensive positions when tied 0-0? You think the coach gives a shi…

Yes, OP is talking about being respected by the chess world, not merely winning the title.

Post by pilpulpitbull » Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 9:14 PM UTC

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We are a sexually dimorphic species. Physical differences between men and women are not limited to muscle mass.

Citation needed. In lieu of such data, a simpler explanation is that boys are more encouraged to play chess from a young age than girls. This results in more teenage boys playing chess, a deeper talent pool, and thus better top ranked players. This is similar to what is seen in soccer. Even though China has much bigger population than Holland by almost 100x, the number of Chinese kids playing organized soccer is less…

Post by ubernostrum » Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 4:52 AM UTC

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Citation needed. In lieu of such data, a simpler explanation is that boys are more encouraged to play chess from a young age than girls. This results in more teenage boys playing chess, a deeper talent pool, and thus better top ranked players. This is similar to what is seen in soccer. Even though China has much bigger population than Holland by almost 100x, the number of Chinese kids playing organized soccer is less…

> Citation needed https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-some-sig... > “[That previous study] finds no average difference in intelligence, but males were more variable than females,” Ritchie says. “This is why our finding that male participants’ brains were, in most measures, more variable than female participants’ brains is so interesting. It fits with a lot of other evidence that seems to point toward…