Its nice to see so many opening in high level positions
We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly
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Re: We are Google employees – Google must drop Dragonfly
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
Businesses are not in the business of simply being profitable, they are usually in the business of increasing revenue and profits beyond the current state.
Nothing about my question suggests Google wouldn't be able to continue to grow by focusing on the 80% of the world that isn't China. China may be the lowest-hanging fruit of the search and ad market, but surely you're not suggesting Google would shy away from a challenge and only go for the easy win? That doesn't sounds like the Google we all know.
If I was a business I would avoid low hanging fruits in favor or more risky ventures that are perhaps less likely to succeed or yield profit. Businesses are in the business of business, not in the business of tacking hard problems just to spite the rest of the world. I think the image of Google being this almighty good intentioned soul is over blown because at the end of the day they answer to share holders, they profit of advertisement and the rest of it is ice cream that goes on their advertisement cake. I love google for the services they provide me but I also am not naive that a business is going got be a business first and a good hearted soul last.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google can kick them out and replace within a month. Ah. A believer that software engineers are cogs and can just be “replaced” without training and learning of code bases. Hiring software engineers, bringing them up to speed, and having them contribute to production features, is expensive. Also, you’ll never truly recoup the lost knowledge that goes.
Google has literally thousands of engineers. A significant percentage of those engineers leave every year as part of normal attrition. Google is certainly capable of dealing with the fallout these folks leaving without feeling a thing. While it's true there are some "one-in-a-million" type engineers that work at Google, I don't see any of the well-known ones on this list. All that said, I commend the folks who signed…
I skimmed the list and there's at least one well-know name on the list, Matthew Garrett.
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#305While I agree with their stand on this issue, there is a big level of hypocrisy in these statements since Google is well known for suppressing search results and banning people on YouTube etc. based on political ideology. So I'd like to see them stand up against that as well.
> Google is well known for suppressing search results and banning people on YouTube etc. based on political ideology. Can you give some examples of this?
PragerU is a right-wing channel that Youtube is constantly suppressing by removing videos or demonetizing them. The content is about on-par with what you might hear on a politically slanted news show. It doesn't make sense that Youtube would expend trust capital to harass such an uninteresting channel.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I’d like to try and agree... I think you may be missing a sense of scale and the reality of just how replaceable people are... even magically-gifted google employees.
Replacing people might be easy, but it's never cheap - even in industries with an abundance of candidates. The real issue with having your work-force leave is three-fold. First, you lose all the accumulated knowledge of your team. Second, you lose the cohesiveness of your team. Thirdly, you have to _pay to get a new team_. All of these things conspire to make all but the lowliest of jobs (think Target Associate) much…
Point 4: the new people come in with knowledge of the walk out, which can cause all kinds of secondary reactions. If this goes through every new google employee will have something to think about during the HR feel good antics.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does that mean? What will they say or do to the family?
China regularly makes people disappear. They are the epitome of a 1984 style totalitarian state: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/25/asia/fan-bingbing-china-opini...
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#308I also feel like they've changed search so much for profit purposes that it's impossible to find certain things without receiving pages of irrelevance. I've been using Google since the early 2000's and it's so easy to tell Search has dropped in quality. Certain words & phrases I know would produce legitimate useful search results in 2008 will now just pull pages of unrelated ads. It's still the best, but the profit m…
examples please
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#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google is already censoring specific searches all over the world, in the EU for example, the right to be forgotten and many "hate speech" laws already force google to censor many sites that are filtered out.
Censorship in the EU is generally intended to protect individuals; censorship in China is meant to protect the ones doing the censoring. The EU has democratically elected governments; China is an authoritarian dictatorship. Those are differences in kind, not just degree.
Censorship in the EU is generally intended to protect individuals
I seem to recall that anything about Nazis is censored in France. I believe selling Nazi stuff on eBay is forbidden, for example.
But I haven't heard about this in a long time, so this may not still be true.
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#310No kidding?!?!
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-files-for-unusual-2-7-billi...
http://time.com/4060575/alphabet-google-dont-be-evil/
It's almost like the writing was on the wall but no one saw it...