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Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Post by bduerst »

spurgu wrote: post #135
overcast wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My suggestion right now(from a Mac user), is a Windows 10 machine with the Linux subsystem installed. You'll have an entire Linux environment integrated into Windows, giving you the best of both worlds. Supported software, hardware, and your natural development environment. Honestly, I'm weary of moving anything to Google with their track record of just abandoning projects, and privacy concerns.

Remind me, what's best about the Windows world again? Games?

Pretty much. Does Visual Studio run well on a Mac or is it hot garbage like Office?

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Post by tluyben2 »

soared wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking to pick up a chromebook, I maintain an ongoing list of chromebook black friday deals that includes most of the relevant specs (except linux/android support) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12L9SM7k-Z6LSsGvdi7do...

Thanks for making that list. I guess there will be more requests but a battery life (real if possible, not factory indications) column would be great.

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Post by pjmlp »

spurgu wrote: post #135
overcast wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My suggestion right now(from a Mac user), is a Windows 10 machine with the Linux subsystem installed. You'll have an entire Linux environment integrated into Windows, giving you the best of both worlds. Supported software, hardware, and your natural development environment. Honestly, I'm weary of moving anything to Google with their track record of just abandoning projects, and privacy concerns.

Remind me, what's best about the Windows world again? Games?

Games, a 3D API that doesn't suck, an actual OO ABI, a kernel that isn't yet another UNIX clone, one of the best IDEs on the school from Xerox PARC workstations, a shell that uses structured data and integrates with OS APIs, user space drivers.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Post by jeena »

bsaul wrote: post #92
liamcardenas wrote: post #86

Around this time: https://youtu.be/QTmAtXoPkgw?t=256 (4:16 into the video) it talks about how ChromeOS runs Android, Linux, and ChromeOS apps natively, in a performant and secure manner, without emulation using a combination of containers and hardware virtualization. This strikes me as very similar to Qubes' security model. Very interesting to see this architecture developed by a company like Google.

What do you mean by "without emulation ... using hardware virtualization" ? Is the difference that hardware of the VM has to match the one of the real hardware ?

I find the picture they're showing also quite confusing, my guess is that they're using some kind of a hardware hypervisor and that runs different VMs.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Post by pjmlp »

z3t4 wrote: post #142

I read about the Chromebooks being a huge market especially in education, so I bought a Chromebook and made a app targeted for education. The market is however a ghost town, it seems I'm at least 5 years behind, most old apps have 10ˇ5 users, but new apps, those only one or two years old, have less then 10ˇ2 users ... What happened? Are schools only using pre-installed apps? Or did they stop using Chromebooks? How do…

US education system mostly, so if you are located in another country, you aren't going to get much customers anyway.

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Post by neor »

philips wrote: post #34

Anecdote: I stopped using OSX for primary development about 7 months ago and started using a Pixelbook + Crostini exclusively. Par - Hassle free desktop experience on par with OSX - Password managers, music apps, etc available via Android appstore Advantages - Fast time to productivity because Crostini takes a few clicks, then apt-get everything - Native "File Manager" integration makes it painless to move files to a…

I wish I could make the switch. New MacBooks are costing our company 4500+ each, but most of us don't want to go to Windows.

This sounds like a good solution, but I'd probably miss out on a good alternative to Sketch or Zeplin which is an important part of our development workflow.

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Post by superflyguy »

soared wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking to pick up a chromebook, I maintain an ongoing list of chromebook black friday deals that includes most of the relevant specs (except linux/android support) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12L9SM7k-Z6LSsGvdi7do...

That's great but could you make me a coffee so I have something to drink while I read it?

Re: Chrome OS: Ready for Web Development [video]

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Post by putsjoe »

dirkg wrote: post #133

Some counterpoints - - Crostini is only for a limited set of Chromebooks. I have an Acer 15 with Intel Broadwell, which is extremely powerful and not that old, but Google won't support it for whatever insane reason they might have - Chromebook keyboard is lacking. You cannot program without a del key - They aren't cheap. Only the low end low powered 2GB models are and they are unusable, as well as not supported by Cr…

Alt + Backspace should work for the delete key.

I agree with you on the pricing and Crostini support though.

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Post by mosselman »

jchw wrote: post #71
mosselman wrote: post #57

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It still sounds like something I’d not be interested in: having to be so defensive around the os. Apps are already annoying, but if you can’t trust the OS itself, then why bother with it at all?

That's the reality I feel every time I boot into Windows to be honest. I work at Google so I am definitely biased but candidly those OneDrive ads in Explorer pissed me off pretty badly, as does start menu ads, Cortana notifications, automatically installing Candy Crush, and so many other things. You can disable most of that, but then I hear there's still telemetry getting sent back to MSFT even after you disable ever…

Exactly. I only use Windows for gaming from time to time and I have to be careful about other things on it. No way to work though so I am happy that Steam is making lots of progress on their wine fork.
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