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Time to End Factory Farming?

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It’s the convenience factor. That’s it. Once plant-based options are more convenient than meat, game over. Most people lack the discipline to sustain a vegan lifestyle, even in 2018.

For me part of the problem is that the sort of satiation one gets from vegan options is different and less complete than the sort that comes from a meal with even a small portion of meat. I can feel “full” with with beans, lentils, rice, etc, but it’s not nearly as satisfying. It’s a kind of “empty” fullness that quells the hunger but doesn’t leave me with the sense of having eaten a good meal. I’m never left particu…

It's interesting that you are so attached to that satiating feeling. Have you ever fasted before?

Keep in mind that you need to give your taste buds/gut time to adapt to a healthier, meat-free diet. It is similar to when people give up sodium food then tastes really bland. However, after a few weeks, people's taste buds change and they begin to enjoy sodium-free meals.

Try giving a whole foods plant-based diet a shot for just a few weeks. There's a million whole foods you can eat. Whole grains, nuts, seeds, legumes, thousands of veggies and fruits, spices, etc. This website is quite helpful for new vegans: https://www.challenge22.com/challenge22/

Re: Time to End Factory Farming?

#152

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I feels ya. A few years ago, I got pretty worked up about my state killing an entire wolf pack, just to protect some cows. So I got involved. I learned a lot. Ranchers are people too. I really loved these people. It was just one bad apple, deliberate repeat offender, causing all the problems. Everyone else was totally onboard towards creating a better future. Ranching is unsustainable. And they (the families) know it…

"#1 laboratory meat will largely eliminate factory farming. [..] All us tree huggers should work to expedite." Any suggestion about how to help here? For instance, is there any organization where we can send money for pushing for this outcome? The environmental reasons alone should be enough to invest in this.

The Good Food Institute is working on exactly that:

https://www.gfi.org/donate

They are a non-profit that are advocating and researching clean meat and plant-based alternatives. I recommend this 75 minute interview with it's director if you want to understand why is it such an important and effective cause:

https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/bruce-friedrich-good...

Re: Time to End Factory Farming?

#153

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Discipline? Muhaha, I just don't want to be a vegan. Really love to eat meat.

Lol you just pointed out the lack of discipline in your reply. You're aware of how bad eating meat is for the environment and ethics. And I'm sure you'll understand, if you are educated on nutritional science, that it's also bad for your personal health. And yet, you "really love to eat meat." Either you're too lazy to give good plant-based meals a shot (and time for your taste buds/gut to change), or it's just a dis…

Let’s do an experiment. “Discipline? Muhaha, I just don't want to be non-smoker. Really love to smoke.”

Meat consumption is just as if not more detrimental to your health than smoking cigarettes. Sounds like a discipline issue to me.

Re: Time to End Factory Farming?

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Lol you just pointed out the lack of discipline in your reply. You're aware of how bad eating meat is for the environment and ethics. And I'm sure you'll understand, if you are educated on nutritional science, that it's also bad for your personal health. And yet, you "really love to eat meat." Either you're too lazy to give good plant-based meals a shot (and time for your taste buds/gut to change), or it's just a dis…

Let’s do an experiment. “Discipline? Muhaha, I just don't want to be non-smoker. Really love to smoke.” Meat consumption is just as if not more detrimental to your health than smoking cigarettes. Sounds like a discipline issue to me.

> Meat consumption is just as if not more detrimental to your health than smoking cigarettes.

Very funny. Calm down man, I don't give a shit about vegan beliefs.

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