This reads like an advertorial. Does the BBC have some interest in getting tech workers to Wales?
No, the BBC has an anti-Brexit agenda.
They didn't mention it in the article but I wouldn't be surprised if it crossed their mind.
Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
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Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#32Up to 60k p/a[0] for a Senior DevOps engineer is not exactly London wages when the exact same job can start at or above 80k. [1]
Have they also thought that not every engineer lives in (or wants to move to) Cardiff?
What is their remote working policy? Do they even have one?
[0]: https://www.mypinpad.com/careers/
[1]: https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/jobs/permanent/senior-devops-engine...
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#33I am continually amazed at the cynical attempt by hiring managers to try to pretend that the laws of supply and demand shouldn't apply to non-exec level staff. If you can't hire the people you want for what you're offering that should be a signal to pay more, not to whine that you can't force your idea of a reasonable wage on others.
Yes but you missed out on why they are doing this. This "whining" is actually about changing public perception such that business can take action to widen its access to a larger pool of skilled workers. The more competitive the talent market the more they can keep a larger share of their profits.
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#34Can't get staff? What a shame. Would you consider starting some kind of training policy?
I wonder if training works for developers.
I've never seen any company offering developer training, so i assumed training developers doesn't work.
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#35In the article they say they are offering London salaries. Fine. But Cardiff is not the same as London ! London is huge comapred to Cardiff. Cardiff has about 500,000 people in its urban area compared to 10,000,000 in London, and Cardiff is about 30 square miles compared to almost 700 square miles for London [1]. As such London just has a lot more going on - theatre, museums, nightlife, restaurants, sports, shopping,…
Judging from the Wikipedia, Cardiff metro area has about the same population as Tel Aviv, which still manages to host one of the world's hottest start up scenes.
The Tel Aviv metro area is closer to 4m people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gush_Dan
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#36Bad Title. Actual article says "up to 100k", as in maximum. I assume most people don't get that offer.
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not a matter of population. Tel Aviv is probably the most interesting and happening city in that whole great region, while Cardiff isn't.
Although your chances of dying in Cardiff are probably less than in Tel Aviv.
I looked that up back in the day when I had to go to Tel Aviv for work during the time of the suicide bombings (2004/2005):
The chance of dying a violent death in Israel is much lower than in the US.
Cardiff is probably lower than the average of the US, of course. And Tel Aviv may be higher than the average of Israel. But AFAIK, suicide bombing on regular civilian places inside Israel hasn’t been a thing for quite a while.
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/violence/...
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#38Onboarding and dividing work between 100 engineers is hard. Makes me think of Brooks' law: " Adding human resources to a late software project makes it later ." [0] MyPinPad's careers page [1] lists four positions (Android developer, iOS developer, senior devops engineer, and services developer) with the same " salary up to £60,000 per annum, depending on experience " for each position. The higher salary makes for a…
Brooks' Law: "nine women can't make a baby in one month."
Re: Cardiff tech firm: 'We'll pay £100k, but can't get staff'
#39Onboarding and dividing work between 100 engineers is hard. Makes me think of Brooks' law: " Adding human resources to a late software project makes it later ." [0] MyPinPad's careers page [1] lists four positions (Android developer, iOS developer, senior devops engineer, and services developer) with the same " salary up to £60,000 per annum, depending on experience " for each position. The higher salary makes for a…
On a similar note, putting "Pay based on experience" also limits your application pool. Tell people what you are willing START the pay rate at.