Green tea supplements ruined my liver

Post by x2f10 » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 5:01 PM UTC

saalweachter wrote: post #90

raverbashing wrote: post #75

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Oh yes, if only people ate a perfectly balanced diet and had time and resources to know how to get the exact quantity of every ingredient. Saying "you don't need supplements" is naive idealism. And here's the catch, "healthy people don't need supplements" but how many people are taking multivitamins and hence supplementing a dietary deficiency? "Don't take vitamin D" until you have an issue and then have to go to the…

Yes, do not take vitamin D unless under the direction of a doctor. As a fat-soluble vitamin, it's not super difficult to poison yourself with it.

Post by hedvig » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 5:12 PM UTC

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #76

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #52

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Why can't people just eat a bit less and do some exercise? It's not rocket science.

Sure it isn't rocket science, but it isn't nearly as simple as "just eat a bit less and do some exercise". I've lost a lot of weight and kept it off for years. Good advice is hard to come by, and half of the advice is complete crap or so restrictive that it is difficult to follow. Even "simply eating less" isn't that simple. 1. Few tell you ways to deal with actual hunger. Frank talks about this would help: I explain…

Post by apocolyps6 » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM UTC

trukterious wrote: post #134

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #131

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Then maybe the RDA is just wrong. If we can't eat enough healthy food to sustain us without becoming obese, then the numbers are wrong. I mean, how could we have possibly made it as long as we have as a species if we are only now realizing that we can't eat enough good foods to be healthy???

>how could we have possibly made it as long as we have as a species if we are only now realizing that we can't eat enough good foods to be healthy? Partly due to agricultural soil depletion of certain elements like magnesium, zinc, iodine. Btw our prehistoric ancestors weren't especially healthy either: https://imgur.com/gallery/2G0BDwx

Post by TheCoelacanth » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 6:42 PM UTC

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #131

jerf wrote: post #123

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The problem with that sort of suggestion is that by the time you're eating the food that high in this and the food that's high in that and the food that's high in the other, you've gotten to your ~2000 calories for the day and are still missing nutrients, plus your diet is infeasibly bland. There are some things that if you can't get them from a normal diet are certainly most easily obtained from supplements. Vitamin…

Then maybe the RDA is just wrong. If we can't eat enough healthy food to sustain us without becoming obese, then the numbers are wrong. I mean, how could we have possibly made it as long as we have as a species if we are only now realizing that we can't eat enough good foods to be healthy???

Post by fastball » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 8:10 AM UTC

fastball wrote: post #156

pjc50 wrote: post #28

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Journalism is not an interrogation nor a transcript; you don't know whether that question was asked and he gave "I can't remember" as an answer.

If that hypothetical happened, then I would expect the article to say something like "we asked Jim how many of these pills he was taking, and he couldn't remember, but somewhere in the region of 3 per day".