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The general rule is: You don't need supplements. Period. That's because supplements provide (or are supposed to provide) trace elements that you need, but you only need a little bit of it. Like minerals and certain vitamins etc. The thing is - you basically need the same (trace) amount of it, whatever your lifestyle is. And you get it through eating a normal varied diet (e.g. a little meat, vegetables, some fish and…
" So when do you not get enough of it? When you don't eat much food, or not enough of certain kinds of foods." The exception to this is Vitamin D... if you live in certain areas of the world. In general, the closer you live to the equator, the less you'll need this supplement during the winter. I wound up with a low level last winter - enough to go to the doctor for testing. My other nutrients were just fine: I'm mos…
Green tea supplements ruined my liver
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> As an example my son when he was young he liked carrot juice, so give it to him daily, when we went to the doctor she noticed he had is skin colored and told us to stop, I had no idea that too much carrots can be bad Well in your son’s case, it’s not harmful per se according to Wikipedia, Carotenosis is harmless - you will just look orange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carotenosis
As another poster said, it's all about the dosage. Anything can be a poison. Even water - there have been several cases of people dying from drinking too much water, some side effect of taking ecstacy - they felt thirsty however much they were drinking. Vitamin A is a classic: Too little, and you get blind and your feet start bleeding when you walk. Too much, and you get blind and your feet start bleeding when you wa…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_A
since one egg yolk contains around 30% of the Vitamin A you need for a day, i limit my daily consumption to 3.
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#83Did anyone else see a dosage that he was actually taking for these green tea supplements? It seems to be missing from the article but is arguably the most important point. Anything is poisonous to the body in high enough doses. Does the producer of these capsules (apparently Vitacost) specify a maximum dosage? If so, was Jim exceeding this recommendation? Or well under it? Come on BBC.
There is no 'dosage', because—as mentioned in the article—these capsules are classified as food, not medicine: > What is it about green tea supplements that might cause harm at certain doses to some people? Scientists do not know for certain. Because green tea has been drunk for thousands of years, supplements consisting of its concentrated form are regulated in the US and Europe as foods, not medicines. That means t…
If there is a relative chance of danger - they should include a warning ! My dishsoap has a warning
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#84Thank you for posting this article. It gave me pause for thought. I have been taking a green tea supplement occasionally. I saw it in a vitamin store, and bought it because of the supposed benefits of antioxidants. I figured - I have a stressful job, I live in a polluted city and do drink alcohol - I probably need the antioxidants. Plus, something that's made out of green tea sounds safe, not likely do any harm, righ…
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/more-trouble-for-antioxidan...
Growing evidence that antioxidants are not good for your immune system.
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Long-time swimmer here. Without extra magnesium, I will get spasms in my legs from time to time while exercising. With extra magnesium, I don't.
I used to be a competition bicyclist - daily training sessions of hours and hours. If you don't get enough magnesium, look at your diet. With normal healthy food you should get more than enough.
>With normal healthy food you should get more than enough.
No, I looked into it some years ago and it seems unfeasible. For instance you'd have to eat about 15 stalks/heads of broccoli daily to get the RDA of magnesium, and that amount is likely suboptimal.
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Vitamin D goes with magnesium, and at higher amounts, vitamin K(2 MK-4).
Both are pretty easy to get, though. I personally eat a lot of broccoli and tend to eat red, fatty fish once a week. Unless the doctor says something, most folks won't need to take those supplements. It is a lot more difficult to meet your vitamin D needs through food, however.
Magnesium deficiency/insufficiency is almost as common as vitamin D's. If status hasn't been verified by something like an RBC or WBC magnesium test, then it isn't really known.
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You are ignoring the most comprehensive studies. Population analysis. There are populations that drink green tea regularly as a matter of tradition. Thats how this shit was discovered in the first place.
Compared to hundreds of studies about green tea extracts, many of them reported by the media, those population-wide studies had minimal effects on the public. And even those studies would usually find the largest effects on people who drink impractically large amounts of green tea, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3103781/ or http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/722554/relationship-betwee... (6 cups per…
I drink about 1,5 liters of green tea nearly every day, nothing impractical about it.
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#88Apropos, Consumer reporters has a guide to alternative (about 1/2 way down): https://www.consumerreports.org/alternative-medicine/guide-t...
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#89If I recall correctly, the tea plant is great at taking up certain heavy metals from the soil. Quick search turned up something https://www.scribd.com/doc/24451227/Analysis-of-Heavy-Metals... Lead, Mercury, arsenic, aluminium, copper. Could be a concern?
Another concern should be the Fukushima disaster, close to japans biggest teacultivation areas.
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The general rule is: You don't need supplements. Period. That's because supplements provide (or are supposed to provide) trace elements that you need, but you only need a little bit of it. Like minerals and certain vitamins etc. The thing is - you basically need the same (trace) amount of it, whatever your lifestyle is. And you get it through eating a normal varied diet (e.g. a little meat, vegetables, some fish and…
Oh yes, if only people ate a perfectly balanced diet and had time and resources to know how to get the exact quantity of every ingredient. Saying "you don't need supplements" is naive idealism. And here's the catch, "healthy people don't need supplements" but how many people are taking multivitamins and hence supplementing a dietary deficiency? "Don't take vitamin D" until you have an issue and then have to go to the…
Yes, do not take vitamin D unless under the direction of a doctor. As a fat-soluble vitamin, it's not super difficult to poison yourself with it.