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Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Seeing as Google pays Apple $12bn to be the default search engine on iOS devices I’m tempted to call hypocrisy here... http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-eng...

I do get your point and agree but most users are uneducated and will most likely have problems with DuckDuckGo and be confused to what happened to their Google and why is it deleted. So I guess it’s another side to consider. That’s no excuse thou. Apple should at least ask the question in the onboarding.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#82

First response: This sounds good, maybe I should consider Apple for my next device? Second response: Was undermining Google the reason he held the speech in the first place?

Before you consider Apple as your next device provider, remember that they right now are completely shutting down third party repairs of their devices.

Also Apple's own "repair method" is to tell you that it's broken, without so much as opening the case and just replacing any component that seems to act up, costing you up to the device's original price in repair fees.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope Google will at least analyze the idea of privacy, analyze what data they collect and if all of it needs to be collected or kept, when someone suggests let's collect everything there(and in other companies) should be some debate there before is implemented.

We now know the cost of mobile privacy from Google's EU pricing. They should just add it as a feature: "Privacy - $40".

Or we could get asked

Do you want the google store(40$), the amazon store(x$), other free store(0$) ?

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#84
I know this is a little unrelated, but Apple makes me agree to giant EULAs and "terms of use" every time they update their damned iTunes store.

I wish that would go away and the Apple EULAs and agreements would get shorter instead of getting longer.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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I read this as "military industrial complex" and was positively surprised to see such a strong sociopolitical statement coming from Tim Cook, then I noticed the article talks about "data industrial complex" and realised this is still tame enough to count as aggressive marketing.

Apple can effect data industrial complex, unlike the military industrial complex. Doing the opposite would be empty posturing.

Cook is only making this statement because it's in Apple's business interest to cripple ad-based competitors by convincing policy makers to hobble them with regulation. He's not a neutral observer.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#86

Seeing as Google pays Apple $12bn to be the default search engine on iOS devices I’m tempted to call hypocrisy here... http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-eng...

I do get your point and agree but most users are uneducated and will most likely have problems with DuckDuckGo and be confused to what happened to their Google and why is it deleted. So I guess it’s another side to consider. That’s no excuse thou. Apple should at least ask the question in the onboarding.

Also you can't just forget the point, that you will not find the same results on DuckDuckGo and Bing and others that you find on Google. That is my #1 problem with switching to another search engine. It doesn't show me the results that I need, especially for technical questions. Google does.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#87

Hi Apple. Please: • add VPN on/off to control center • allow per-app VPN via Apple Configurator, without enterprise MDM • once the above two are available, we can use Tor, IDS, DPI or pihole on a per-application basis, to reduce data harvesting • bonus1: allow the open-source iOS MDM community OR the iOS Shortcuts community to make it easy for novice users to have one-click install of "privacy-plus configurations" •…

I’d like to see better sand boxing of the Photo album on iOS. Facebook, LinkedIn and others are known to raid your photos if they have access to it. Ideally you could limit their ability to read and write to just a specific photo album. Or limit write and read separately. At the moment your ability to enable and disable the permission is based on what permission the app requests and they show up together.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

#88

Well Apple can start by making Siri work locally/without internet and then I believe their stance.

Cook isn't arguing that companies should not be allowed to have access to data. He's arguing that there should be laws in place to prevent misuse and abuses of that data.

There's nothing inherently wrong with agreeing to give a company access to your data. But it's absolutely wrong that once you've handed your data over, that company can do whatever it wants with it, with no restrictions, as if they own it.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple can effect data industrial complex, unlike the military industrial complex. Doing the opposite would be empty posturing.

Cook is only making this statement because it's in Apple's business interest to cripple ad-based competitors by convincing policy makers to hobble them with regulation. He's not a neutral observer.

Does Apple really compete with Facebook and ad platforms? Does Apple even really compete with Google? Isn’t the Android competition mostly not Google, e.g. Samsung?

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has had stripped-down versions of this before on both iOS and macOS via Voice Control.

There's a big difference between recognizing "open the photos app, computer" and "what times is the avenger's showing today, Siri?"

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