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Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by mattmanser »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #4
miguelrochefort wrote: post #2

Personal information is extremely valuable. I don't understand why people are opposed to collecting and making use of it. Not doing so would be inefficient and foolish. While I believe that those who collect such data would make the world a better place if they freely distributed it, I don't think they should be forced to. I'm sure that whatever hypothetical problem that could result from such collection of data coul…

Because I value my privacy. That said, I do think people should not be surprised that when they reveal pieces of information to a company that that information is used by that company in ways that they don't 100% agree with. If you give up information, you're giving up (some amount) of control over how that information is used.

I don't think that's true, I expect to be told up front, clearly and unambiguously, the true cost of something.

Stores that have hidden charges and gotchas are reviled, just like we should be outraged by websites that sell your data without your explicit consent.

It's a bait and switch con.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by 9712263 »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #2

Personal information is extremely valuable. I don't understand why people are opposed to collecting and making use of it. Not doing so would be inefficient and foolish. While I believe that those who collect such data would make the world a better place if they freely distributed it, I don't think they should be forced to. I'm sure that whatever hypothetical problem that could result from such collection of data coul…

True, so can I get paid when I sell my information?

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

mattmanser wrote: post #11
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I value my privacy. That said, I do think people should not be surprised that when they reveal pieces of information to a company that that information is used by that company in ways that they don't 100% agree with. If you give up information, you're giving up (some amount) of control over how that information is used.

I don't think that's true, I expect to be told up front, clearly and unambiguously, the true cost of something. Stores that have hidden charges and gotchas are reviled, just like we should be outraged by websites that sell your data without your explicit consent. It's a bait and switch con.

I don't think you should be surprised because I think you should assume (as I do) that all information will be used in the maximally worst case way. Once you do that, you're never surprised.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by nosuchthing »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #6
__m wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because of the word “personal”

Personal information is information about a person. We already collect information about things. Why not collect information about people, which are arguably more interesting?

Many people enjoy privacy.

If your children were followed around with someone recording them with a personal video recorder as soon as they left their house, that’s just public information right?

/s

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by ognarb »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #6
__m wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because of the word “personal”

Personal information is information about a person. We already collect information about things. Why not collect information about people, which are arguably more interesting?

Because person aren't things

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by huffmsa »

huffmsa wrote: post #13

Apple blew it's lead with Siri and is now trying to hamstring it's competition from passing it by with features that aren't animated emotions or only allowing certified Apple parts in repairs.

And can someone please fix the garbage fire iTunes desktop UI? It makes zero sense for the "description" bubble to be some tiny 20 character wide chat bubble for podcasts.

Re: Tim Cook makes blistering attack on the “data industrial complex”

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Post by izacus »

Is that the same type of moral speech as he did when he said "Privacy is fundamental human right" and then gave keys to iCloud to Chinese government some time later?

He's a CEO of a multi-billion publicly traded corporation. Content warning applies for everything he (or any such CEO/PR service) says.

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