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As a press outlet they have a pretty solid defense in the first amendment
There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
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"There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards" No, the boards would be selectively hacked. And we know it happens because 'we' do it as well. Surely there is evidence floating around but it's also unlikely that companies would want to admit the breach. I kind of believe Apple and Amazon though, there's too much risk if they were to be caught lying. This is a weird one ...
But surely there's at least a few thousand of the hacked boards? The article mentioned a data center and entire companies being targeted. All it would take is someone to dig up some junked boards, unless they were intentionally destroyed to hide evidence. Unlike 0 days or other issues, this seems like it would be easy to reproduce. Just need to find the boards.
I actually don't care what the truth [edit: truth of this specific BMRG story] is - the West needs a 'wake up call' on this one and any company installing hardware should be inspecting everything that comes in.
Too much lax security out there, sadly, the US gov I don't think is competent enough in this area to provide guidelines.
I wish there was a CIO right in the White House cabinet, who could work with the Valley + Security experts to provide minimum guidelines for everyone, and to make everyone aware of certain things.
I'm glad the internet was designed to be 'open first' but not glad it was designed to be almost inherently insecure as well. 'Open but Secure' by default would be nice :)
The denials seem convincing. And yet the story seems very much plausible. US NSA does these kinds of attacks, why not China? > They offered no proof, story kept changing, and showed no interest in our answers unless we could validate their theories If that's really the case then it seems likely that their source may have indeed deceived them. But don't they have multiple sources? > The article also claims ... we cond…
There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
Just noting that anonymous sources aren't unknown sources — if Bloomberg says that these are people working in US Intelligence then they've very likely validated it, but are protecting their identities by request.
Also worth noting that Amazon and Apple have a tremendous amount to lose here. That doesn't mean they're lying, but based no what we know, they have more incentive to lie than Bloomberg does. Also possible that they're already working with the government and have been asked to lie about it due to national security.
Totally possible that Bloomberg was intentionally mislead or flat-out wrong either way. It just sounds like they've done the due diligence of checking with an abundance of sources, so it would be odd. They've made mistakes before, but I don't know that they've ever made one of this magnitude. The decision to publish or not publish a story like this isn't something that one person working at Bloomberg does on a whim, many people are involved.
All other things aside, I tend to trust journalists more than corporations. There's not a lot of room to jump to a conclusion either way. Very solid 'maybe' territory all around.
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"There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards" No, the boards would be selectively hacked. And we know it happens because 'we' do it as well. Surely there is evidence floating around but it's also unlikely that companies would want to admit the breach. I kind of believe Apple and Amazon though, there's too much risk if they were to be caught lying. This is a weird one ...
You just need ONE board to be able to prove it. Surely Bloomberg or their sources can get their hand on a single piece?
But it doesn't matter - this is happening 100% guaranteed.
'We' do it and China has become far more aggressive in these areas these days ... so if they could be doing it, they would be.
Someone should come up with a bit of proof though.
There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
Will they name their anonymous sources if it turns out they were played by them?
There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…
> they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence What do you mean by the second part of this? Bloomberg should have received examples of comprised boards?
I really have little doubt that the Chinese are integrating their spy chips into computer hardware going to the big four or even the pentagon. It's probably how they stole the designs to the f-35[you know that plane that costs over a trillion dollars to develop]. It would catastrophic if apple knew or even acknowledges the possibility of the Chinese having a backdoor into their servers and would result in massive shi…
> how they stole the designs to the f-35 Any comprehensive report of this?
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You just need ONE board to be able to prove it. Surely Bloomberg or their sources can get their hand on a single piece?
The story is weird, and yes, they should be able to produce a board, surely. They maybe got caught with their pants down. But it doesn't matter - this is happening 100% guaranteed. 'We' do it and China has become far more aggressive in these areas these days ... so if they could be doing it, they would be. Someone should come up with a bit of proof though.
" this is happening 100% guaranteed."
I don't know what brave new world we have entered where journalists, or even online users for that matter, make confident claims about things for which there is no physical evidence.