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AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story

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Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story

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Post by 1001101 »

jackconnor wrote: post #16

There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…

> hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket.

The stuff of dreams for security researchers.

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Post by compcoffee »

jackconnor wrote: post #16

There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…

>I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibility in tech journalism

If the tech world turns their back on Bloomberg, I'll give them more credibility; not less.

Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story

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Post by pvg »

Steko wrote: post #13

An easy way Bloomberg could support their story: allow one or more of their "senior insider" sources at Apple/Amazon to speak with another outlet (AP, NYT, whoever) who agrees to maintain their anonymity.

Who their sources choose to speak to is not up to Bloomberg.

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Post by jorblumesea »

Surely at least a few of these boards should be floating around, can't Bloomberg or others dig up a few physical examples? Unlike software 0 days or other more ephemeral issues this should be hard to conceal and easy to reproduce.

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Post by JoshTko »

hckdff wrote: post #8

Call me a cynic, but the more these aholes call for a retraction the more I feel the story has legs. Even if it isn't true it's very plausibility is what scares them shitless.

So how should have Apple and Amazon acted if they were indeed truly innocent? Their behavior seems to be very consistent with what they are saying.

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Post by frou_dh »

mrybczyn wrote: post #15
devoply wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main issue is that most of their stuff is manufactured in China, they see themselves taking a huge hit in profitability if the US all the sudden forced them to only do stuff in the US because of security.

Yup. Their entire business success, their 1 trillion dolar story, all their "shareholder value" can be summed up by: "we don't build anything, the Chinese build it for us". Time to pay the piper.

You don't need to coin a phrase - they laser-etch this split right onto the product: https://i.imgur.com/lHMIz5N.jpg

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Post by ElBarto »

jackconnor wrote: post #16

There should be hundreds of thousands or millions of these hacked motherboards, and nobody has found a single one despite hardware geeks worldwide searching like it was Willy Wonka's final golden ticket. This story was bogus, it most likely came from a ton of rumors that got conflated, hence why they had to go with anonymous sources as opposed to any physical evidence. I'd be surprised if Bloomberg has any credibilit…

Assuming the story is real it is quite obvious that there aren't that many compromised motherboards. It wouldn't make sense and it would make the attack easier to detect and to publicly incriminate the culprit.

As the attack is said to have been discovered 3 years ago it is also not surprising that housekeeping has already been done a long time ago.

Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story

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Post by appleiigs »

jackconnor wrote: post #29
Steko wrote: post #13

An easy way Bloomberg could support their story: allow one or more of their "senior insider" sources at Apple/Amazon to speak with another outlet (AP, NYT, whoever) who agrees to maintain their anonymity.

One of the interviewees did speak (though he's not apple or amazon), and said that Bloomberg completely misrepresented what he said to support this theory, which he totally disagrees with: https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/09/bloomberg/

The article you linked states, Bloomberg says:

> Joe FitzPatrick was not one of these 17 individual primary sources that included company insiders and government officials,

Re: AWS CEO Jassy follows Apple in calling for retraction of Chinese spy chip story

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Post by jackconnor »

appleiigs wrote: post #38
jackconnor wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the interviewees did speak (though he's not apple or amazon), and said that Bloomberg completely misrepresented what he said to support this theory, which he totally disagrees with: https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/09/bloomberg/

The article you linked states, Bloomberg says: > Joe FitzPatrick was not one of these 17 individual primary sources that included company insiders and government officials,

Oh, he was one of the named sources. Good catch, though that doesn't change the point.
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