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Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by ru999gol »

wvenable wrote: post #72
gmueckl wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shows what a steamimg pile of incoherent features and behaviours the Windows Explorer has been gradually turned into since Windows 7. It is quite hard for average users to coax that tool into showing an actually honest content of some directory on the hard drive. There are so many abstractions, redirections, alternative view and on the fly translations (only obvious with languages other than English) in there th…

Microsoft seems to think users are idiots. And often they are. But you can't help these people, every solution they come up just creates more idiots who don't know how it works. Some point soon we'll all be idiots who don't know how anything works anymore.

The amount of garbage I get free with every ZIP file from a Mac user makes me think Apple users aren't the brightest bunch either.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by HelloNurse »

ttty wrote: post #69
dschuler wrote: post #47

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I know you're saying this in jest, but the (US) government wrote code to fly to the moon and back, control robots on Mars, and model the earth (e.g. DoD's WGS 84, all the work by NIST, etc.). Sure, healthcare.gov was not a smooth rollout, but they do deserve some credit overall. Now Windows on the other hand.... I just set up Windows on a new laptop I bought recently.. just plain Windows as it shipped with my new lap…

Never happened to me with Windows. It's not the best, but works. Linux on the over hand it's a continuous installation of drivers and fixing functionality that works out of the box on my windows: graphics problems, audio, screen, usb, WiFi. Of course and then you try to install some module and says you have incompatible modules. Then you need to figure out what modules you need to change to match the version of the m…

You don't appreciate the difference between knowing what's happening to your system well enough to fix it and hoping that an "update" doesn't cause too much unrecoverable damage when it installs itself behind your back.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by [deleted] »

dschuler wrote: post #47
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #40

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> or have their OS seized by eminent domain If there's one thing the government is known for, it's writing bug-free, efficient software. Also, for real, this bug is not that bad. It's obviously a bug you'd rather not have. But no user data is lost. It just fails to surface an overwrite dialogue, and assumes the result is no.

I know you're saying this in jest, but the (US) government wrote code to fly to the moon and back, control robots on Mars, and model the earth (e.g. DoD's WGS 84, all the work by NIST, etc.). Sure, healthcare.gov was not a smooth rollout, but they do deserve some credit overall. Now Windows on the other hand.... I just set up Windows on a new laptop I bought recently.. just plain Windows as it shipped with my new lap…

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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by jimmy365 »

windowsworkstoo wrote: post #95
mehrdadn wrote: post #78

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> $13,500 > I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. Hmm, that's equivalent to spending between $1-2k to get a new computer every single year. That sounds like an awful investment to me, and I don't think most people would consider it a good investment to have to buy a $1-2k computer every single year. How do you see that as a good investment?

Not the OP but I bill around that per day, so the investment would only be a days worth of billable time to stay cutting edge, so makes sense in that perspective.

Wow, what do you do?

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by skolsuper »

rrrttrrr wrote: post #126
skolsuper wrote: post #76

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When I hear 7zip I associate it with security vulnerabilities. I remember reading a couple of articles last year that said 7zip was maintained and distributed by a single person with not-stellar security practices, and most mirrors online are hosting old, insecure versions. Therefore I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that doesn't "know what they're doing" wrt security. source: https://borncity.com/win/2018/02/21/secu…

The author of that article's problems with 7zip can be summed up and dismissed like so: 1. 7zip has had security flaws - so does every other software that interacts with untrusted data, and the author admits himself that 7zip's author has responded quickly (it doesn't seem like 7zip has an abnormally high amount of exploits) 2. People are using/redistributing old versions of 7zip which are vulnerable - and that's 7zi…

Isn't it a flaw though? What is the point of ASLR then? Asking as a noob

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by lakkal »

misterman0 wrote: post #94

What's a really good alternative to Windows Explorer?

I use this for file viewing and managing:

https://www.fileviewer.com/index.html

(the web page describes it as 'an all-purpose File Manager for Windows with a powerful inbuilt text file viewer')

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by Faark »

skolsuper wrote: post #135
rrrttrrr wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author of that article's problems with 7zip can be summed up and dismissed like so: 1. 7zip has had security flaws - so does every other software that interacts with untrusted data, and the author admits himself that 7zip's author has responded quickly (it doesn't seem like 7zip has an abnormally high amount of exploits) 2. People are using/redistributing old versions of 7zip which are vulnerable - and that's 7zi…

Isn't it a flaw though? What is the point of ASLR then? Asking as a noob

I'd compare it to a classical steering-wheel lock. It makes your car a bit harder to steal. Even without it, a thief would still have to get into the car and start the engine. But not parking in a bad neighborhood will likely be a more important factor.

ASLR makes it harder to exploit other bugs that might exist in the software. Browser for example should definitively use it, since they are highly complex systems while also your first line of defense against a somewhat competent attacker. As for 7zip... it also can come in contact with dubious files quite easily while also having to support lots of formats (huge attack surface with potential bugs). I'm torn, but would probably prefer it to use ASLR.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by acct1771 »

wvenable wrote: post #72
gmueckl wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shows what a steamimg pile of incoherent features and behaviours the Windows Explorer has been gradually turned into since Windows 7. It is quite hard for average users to coax that tool into showing an actually honest content of some directory on the hard drive. There are so many abstractions, redirections, alternative view and on the fly translations (only obvious with languages other than English) in there th…

Microsoft seems to think users are idiots. And often they are. But you can't help these people, every solution they come up just creates more idiots who don't know how it works. Some point soon we'll all be idiots who don't know how anything works anymore.

That unfortunately does nothing but help MS' goal...they make simplified tools for both business, personal, and development use.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by acct1771 »

Slartie wrote: post #82
grumblez wrote: post #67

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Unregistered WinRAR for life

I actually bought a license a lot of years ago because I had been using it for many more years already, always clicking that nag screen away, and some day I realized that I would be totally hosed on Windows if there was no WinRAR because it really is the only compression tool that packs good format support with a bearable user interface. 7-zip is okay on the format side since they added some of the newer high-efficie…

...there's a 7-Zip UI?

I take it you're doing more than is offered in the right-click menu?

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Post by hyperman1 »

anticensor wrote: post #103
hyperman1 wrote: post #83

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Not in the EU if you have to buy something expensive with tax money. Because the Public Procurement directive says you * are required to hold a public tender * Before you start, you create a list of criteria, with a weight for each of them. * 50% of the weight goes to price. * Once the process starts, common sense is treated as being bribed. Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not…

> 50% of the weight goes to price. Turns out they often need to tender as fast as possible and just use "lowest price satisfying all other criteria" as a way of choice. > Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not required to have a working product. You are allowed to specify absolute requirements in addition to sorting criteria. For example, you can say, worth more than some price ,…

There is no fast when talking abou tenders. You need to give at least 6 months by law to give companies a chance to respond. If they start asking basic questions, they get extra time to read each others answer. 9 months to 1 year seems a reasonable guess for a not to big tender
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