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Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#42An OS used by billions of people including government agencies, hospitals, and nonprofits is not some videogame that needs new content. It's mission critical software, and these utter delinquents are treating it like a Steam early release. If MS won't get its act together, they should be regulated, broken up, or have their OS seized by eminent domain for the public good.
If you don’t like their os, we don’t need to seize it, just stop using it. There are multiple other ones.
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
First half, yes. Second half, no. That's pretty disturbing territory being leapt into, and sets a very bad precedent.
Isn't there already precedent for the state to step-in to ensure the continued survival of privately-owned and operated corporations and infrastructure that society has taken a strong dependency on? ("too big to fail", etc)
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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#44An OS used by billions of people including government agencies, hospitals, and nonprofits is not some videogame that needs new content. It's mission critical software, and these utter delinquents are treating it like a Steam early release. If MS won't get its act together, they should be regulated, broken up, or have their OS seized by eminent domain for the public good.
If you don’t like their os, we don’t need to seize it, just stop using it. There are multiple other ones.
I don't. I have one Windows 7 machine left.
Windows 7 was peak Microsoft. Between trying to make desktop look like mobile and adding built-in spyware and ads, it's been downhill since then.
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you switching to in the future for desktop/laptop?
Personal goal: gather ~$13,500 and buy the maxed out iMac Pro 2017 -- 4TB SSD, 128GB RAM, Xeon W (18 cores, 2.3Ghz, turbo boost to 4.3GHz, 42.75MB cache), 10Gb ethernet link, 4 USB Type-C ports, 4 Thunderbolt 3 slots, amazing display. I view it as an at least 7 years of investment, if not 11-12 even. (Especially now that macOS has a dark theme as well.) I have a very keen interest in Linux and the people who make it…
Build a hackintosh imo.
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#46This article is super deceptive, these two bugs are completely unrelated, and the one still standing is pretty obscure:
1. You're extracting a Zip file and intend to overwrite your own data
2. The data isn't overwritten, but it doesn't tell you about it
3. You delete the Zip file, thinking that it's extracted.
I'm not discounting that this is a Bug, but I can't think of a time I would've ever lost data because of this, and relating it to the upgrade bugs seem downright deceptive
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#47An OS used by billions of people including government agencies, hospitals, and nonprofits is not some videogame that needs new content. It's mission critical software, and these utter delinquents are treating it like a Steam early release. If MS won't get its act together, they should be regulated, broken up, or have their OS seized by eminent domain for the public good.
> or have their OS seized by eminent domain If there's one thing the government is known for, it's writing bug-free, efficient software. Also, for real, this bug is not that bad. It's obviously a bug you'd rather not have. But no user data is lost. It just fails to surface an overwrite dialogue, and assumes the result is no.
I know you're saying this in jest, but the (US) government wrote code to fly to the moon and back, control robots on Mars, and model the earth (e.g. DoD's WGS 84, all the work by NIST, etc.). Sure, healthcare.gov was not a smooth rollout, but they do deserve some credit overall.
Now Windows on the other hand.... I just set up Windows on a new laptop I bought recently.. just plain Windows as it shipped with my new laptop. Didn't do anything "outside the box" here. I've let it update after this fiasco was supposedly over, restarted - and, of course - can't boot, everything's corrupted, had to reinstall Windows from scratch. Never had this happen with macOS, FreeBSD, or Linux.
It's hard to believe, but it really is _that_ bad. I wish it wasn't!
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#48This article is super deceptive, these two bugs are completely unrelated, and the one still standing is pretty obscure: 1. You're extracting a Zip file and intend to overwrite your own data 2. The data isn't overwritten, but it doesn't tell you about it 3. You delete the Zip file, thinking that it's extracted. I'm not discounting that this is a Bug, but I can't think of a time I would've ever lost data because of thi…
You’ve never edited a file and rezipped it? I did that a lot in the nand2tetris course, where you upload zips.
This would be a nasty surprise when the other party carries on as if you send the old while you think you sent the new. Probably would have been testing my hear out on the course.
And I don’t get your attitude. The data is still gone. The fact that it’s unrelated to the original bug isn’t any kind of comfort.
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#49Yikes. This sounds, however, like a completely different bug, if it is only triggered by unzipping archives. I'm sure that the situation is more complicated than it looks - because it looks like there is just a shocking lack of QA testing being done, if basic edge cases like this are resulting in undefined behavior.
I'm going to quote my comment on the original bug [1] here:
> Well, you see, when you fire a whole lot of your OS group's QA department...
Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
First half, yes. Second half, no. That's pretty disturbing territory being leapt into, and sets a very bad precedent.
Isn't there already precedent for the state to step-in to ensure the continued survival of privately-owned and operated corporations and infrastructure that society has taken a strong dependency on? ("too big to fail", etc)
Pure speculation time...
Even if there was precedent, I cannot imagine a single government taking over an globally distributed operating system AND making it better.
The US Government could maybe do something like force Microsoft to sell Windows to another large company at firesale prices, like Google or IBM, in the same way that Merrill Lynch was forced to sell at bargain basement prices to Bank Of America, at which point BofA became too big-ger to fail.