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Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#102

An OS used by billions of people including government agencies, hospitals, and nonprofits is not some videogame that needs new content. It's mission critical software, and these utter delinquents are treating it like a Steam early release. If MS won't get its act together, they should be regulated, broken up, or have their OS seized by eminent domain for the public good.

There's an LTS version of win 10 without the constant feature updates. Do you actually support desktop Windows in any of those industries with mission critical desktops? If so, you need to educate yourself. If not, your rant is coming from an uninformed position.

Just cause something says LTSB/C, it doesn't mean it doesn't have the same bugs of the update it was branched from.

The LTSB/C is a joke, it's literally just the regular release with Cortana and other garbage removed.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's because they're usually required to accept the lowest reasonable bid. Lots of public sector bodies use best-value rather than lowest-bid procurement.

Not in the EU if you have to buy something expensive with tax money. Because the Public Procurement directive says you * are required to hold a public tender * Before you start, you create a list of criteria, with a weight for each of them. * 50% of the weight goes to price. * Once the process starts, common sense is treated as being bribed. Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not…

> 50% of the weight goes to price.

Turns out they often need to tender as fast as possible and just use "lowest price satisfying all other criteria" as a way of choice.

> Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not required to have a working product.

You are allowed to specify absolute requirements in addition to sorting criteria. For example, you can say, worth more than some price, "the contractor shall have at least n years of experience". As descendant says, these are used to work around ban of subjective selection. Sometimes, they overdo it, and no vendors qualify at all.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

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Note that the windows implementation of zip/unzip does not always return the original file contents after a round trip. Yes, I’ve seen it myself. That’s an even more serious bug, but it’s been there since win7 at least. I don’t trust the builtin zip at all.

Do you have any links to bug reports or other documentation about this?

Unfortunately no. I experienced it when running software signed/hashed and it just would not run. The dev told me that this was well known and that I should not use the builtin zip. Sure enough, unzipping the file with 7zip worked like a charm.

I’ve found the same when downloading a proprietary lib that would not link with a C/Fortran application. The devs there tracked it down to the windows zip being used to pack the file, which they did not normally do.

So, just hearsay, but I’ve never even dreamed of bothering to file a bug report with microsoft. Is that even doable?

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#105

An OS used by billions of people including government agencies, hospitals, and nonprofits is not some videogame that needs new content. It's mission critical software, and these utter delinquents are treating it like a Steam early release. If MS won't get its act together, they should be regulated, broken up, or have their OS seized by eminent domain for the public good.

I bet a lot of enterprises are still using Windows 7 or older because they are mission critical systems for the reasons you state above . (Also because they have to validate all their software to the new operating system .

Win 10 LTSB is really, really good. If you can get it, you should be running it. It would be worth paying a premium for if Microsoft would sell it retail, rather than only through MSDN or volume licensing.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#106
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know you're saying this in jest, but the (US) government wrote code to fly to the moon and back, control robots on Mars, and model the earth (e.g. DoD's WGS 84, all the work by NIST, etc.). Sure, healthcare.gov was not a smooth rollout, but they do deserve some credit overall. Now Windows on the other hand.... I just set up Windows on a new laptop I bought recently.. just plain Windows as it shipped with my new lap…

Never happened to me with Windows. It's not the best, but works. Linux on the over hand it's a continuous installation of drivers and fixing functionality that works out of the box on my windows: graphics problems, audio, screen, usb, WiFi. Of course and then you try to install some module and says you have incompatible modules. Then you need to figure out what modules you need to change to match the version of the m…

I don't know, what exactly you are doing with your Linux installation, but you are doing it wrong.

Try installing something released in last 20 years or so.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in the EU if you have to buy something expensive with tax money. Because the Public Procurement directive says you * are required to hold a public tender * Before you start, you create a list of criteria, with a weight for each of them. * 50% of the weight goes to price. * Once the process starts, common sense is treated as being bribed. Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not…

> 50% of the weight goes to price. Turns out they often need to tender as fast as possible and just use "lowest price satisfying all other criteria" as a way of choice. > Turns out it is very easy to be 50% cheaper than anybody else if you are not required to have a working product. You are allowed to specify absolute requirements in addition to sorting criteria. For example, you can say, worth more than some price ,…

> You are allowed to specify absolute requirements in addition to sorting criteria. For example, you can say, worth more than some price, "the contractor shall have at least n years of experiene".

Exactly these are being used to pick a specific vendor. "Must have at least N people certified to do X for at least Y years", with "must have turnover of X for the last Y years" and few more, and you find out, that there is exactly one company qualifying.

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#108

This article is super deceptive, these two bugs are completely unrelated, and the one still standing is pretty obscure: 1. You're extracting a Zip file and intend to overwrite your own data 2. The data isn't overwritten, but it doesn't tell you about it 3. You delete the Zip file, thinking that it's extracted. I'm not discounting that this is a Bug, but I can't think of a time I would've ever lost data because of thi…

But it does gather clicks!

Re: Even After Fix, Windows 10 Update Is Botching File Operations

#109
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know you're saying this in jest, but the (US) government wrote code to fly to the moon and back, control robots on Mars, and model the earth (e.g. DoD's WGS 84, all the work by NIST, etc.). Sure, healthcare.gov was not a smooth rollout, but they do deserve some credit overall. Now Windows on the other hand.... I just set up Windows on a new laptop I bought recently.. just plain Windows as it shipped with my new lap…

Never happened to me with Windows. It's not the best, but works. Linux on the over hand it's a continuous installation of drivers and fixing functionality that works out of the box on my windows: graphics problems, audio, screen, usb, WiFi. Of course and then you try to install some module and says you have incompatible modules. Then you need to figure out what modules you need to change to match the version of the m…

Working out of the box is nice, but what's magically fixed can be magically broken just as easily. Traditional Linux was more work to get working, but once I got it working I could rely on it to stay working rather than getting broken in the next update. (Linux is no different from windows these days, so I've moved to FreeBSD).
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