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New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by sowbug »

maxxxxx wrote: post #54
ryandrake wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Factory reset and wipe your device before travel, and restore when you get to your hotel. I’m a privacy nut and while this is a disturbing trend there exist straightforward work arounds. EDIT: I do this all the time and it’s not even remotely difficult or a big deal.

How do you do this with an Android device without spending hours restoring it?

Restoring an Android phone from N or later is very fast, if you've taken a moment to enable auto-fill. You still have to sign in to apps with the auto-filled credentials, but I prefer that to synced access tokens.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by zo1 »

paradite wrote: post #533
malnourish wrote: post #465

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Unfortunately your views are fundamentally opposed to what most people (at the very least here ) would define as freedom and civil rights.

Judging from the negative scores, you are right. Does that mean I am going to self-sensor my views to avoid losing karma? No. You have your rights to disagree, I have my rights to express my views.

>"I have my rights to express my views. "

Only if you don't mind the downvotes. For some odd reason, these 'imaginary points' end up causing me to self-censor anyways.

On further-thought, it makes me think it's just something built into us. We seek social/group approval, and it makes us regress to the mean when it comes to thought/opinion. However, I don't think it's the right way for our brains to be wired, especially with social media exposing us to the entire world.

And now with this border-search thing. If it means that the state end up having access to all your social media accounts, that now span decade+ timeframes, not even time and personal growth/regret can protect us.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by zo1 »

lostlogin wrote: post #438
newscracker wrote: post #413

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This is so disgusting, and is a personal violation! I can't imagine going through such a horrific experience. This is exactly the behavior that such laws bring forth. See an attractive woman and stop her for questioning, knowing fully well that you're in the position of power between the two of you and can get away with almost anything.

It’s grim. For some reason this reminds me of the current Supreme Court hearings, where Ford was referred to as ‘attractive’, as though that had some kind of relevance. It’s right the way though the US system it seems and it appears from this new law that NZ is headed that way too. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/5408721/ch...

Oh come on. I'd call it "Fake news", but the article you posted as proof actually explains things rather than leaving it the way you did: implying that you have Senators running around calling abuse victims "attractive" as if its relevant. Read the rest of your own posted article:

“Hatch uses “attractive” to describe personalities, not appearances,” Matt Whitlock, deputy chief of staff and communications director to Hatch, said in response to reporters tweeting about Hatch’s comments. “If you search his past quotes you’ll see he’s used it consistently for years for men and women he believed has compelling personalities.”

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by mistersquid »

strictnein wrote: post #539
edraferi wrote: post #481

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You have no right to privacy when crossing an international border. The solution is simple - don't carry any data you don't want to give to the country you're entering.

This is 100% the right solution, and there's a pretty easy way to accomplish this, with iPhones at least: Back up to iCloud Wipe your phone Cross the border Restore from iCloud And yes, this may fail visiting China, because who knows what the Great Firewall will block.

This is good advice but practitioners should be advised that iOS data backed up to iCloud can be decrypted by Apple and, as a result, is subject to subpoena by the authorities.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by dang »

plink wrote: post #7

Privacy Commissioner John Edwards had some influence over the drafting of the legislation and said he was "pretty comfortable" with where the law stood... "You know when you come into the country that you can be asked to open your suitcase and that a Customs officer can look at everything in there." Evidently, severe brain damage is no hindrance to securing a commissioner's appointment in New Zealand.

Please don't post personal attacks to HN. If you don't owe better to the Privacy Commissioner of New Zealand, you at least owe it to this community not to degrade it like that.

Also, in the case that your view is correct, stooping that low discredits the truth. That's bad for everybody.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by dotancohen »

efreak wrote: post #477
gureddio wrote: post #283

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... if your laptop has space for two SSDs

Hidden partition flag, then. Or just dual boot with a secondary system as default; either a live os image (linux) or installed on a vhd (windows).

You could probably just remove the partition's fstab entry to get past most border searches. Or store the data in what appears to be a swap partition.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by YZF »

patmcc wrote: post #286
jliptzin wrote: post #233

This happened to me driving from the US into Canada with my significant other on a short vacation. After some routine questioning, the agent asked for our phones and passwords. Naturally, I hesitated and wanted to know why he needed to go through our phones. He didn't give a reason, but said if I refuse they'd hold us until their forensics team cracks the phone password anyway. I wanted to make a bigger deal about it…

>>It ruined the vacation for me, and I've stopped visiting Canada because of how disgusted I felt afterwards. I don't blame you for this at all, but I will say this is bi-directional; as a Canadian, when I travel to the US, I get the same bullshit questioning and phone snooping on occasion. The current controversy on border crossing is that, despite marijuana becoming legalized in Canada shortly, if you admit to smok…

My experience is that entering Canada is a little less of a problem and that it's only become more of a problem due to pressure on the Canadians from the US to beef up their border security or else. The more strict checks seem to apply both to Canadians and non-Canadians. And entering Canada, the law is not actually suspended at the border and its vicinity .. unlike some other places.

That said I've travelled dozens of times in a multitude of ports of entries and the vast majority of people have no problem, they're not searched, they're not detained. I haven't seen anyone standing in front of me in line have a problem either. You can avoid 99% of the problem by being polite, answering questions truthfully, and treating the border guards with respect. Yeah, it sucks if they have a bad day and they're rude to you or they ask you invasive questions, just play along and be nice. You'll be fine. If you are suspicious or if you piss them off they will potentially make your day very very bad.

All that said, I think the land border between the US and Canada should just be open.

By the way, you can also go on vacation without a phone ;) disconnecting will make your vacation better!

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by kwhitefoot »

bigiain wrote: post #516
dvcrn wrote: post #509

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This is terrifying, I had no idea this kind of practice is already in place! In Asia, so far I never got asked for my phone and equipment, but now I wonder what the best way is to handle this. Killing my phone and restoring after entering is one way, but for a laptop that's more annoying unless you live in the cloud. Might still be a good practice to have your devices in a state where you could easily wipe and restor…

Don't travel with your primary devices or any devices with sensitive or even personal information on them - to any country ruled by totalitarian regimes, like China, Iran, Turkey, New Zealand, Canada, or the US... :sigh:

Or the UK, and probably a long list of other countries.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by woutr_be »

strictnein wrote: post #539
edraferi wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have no right to privacy when crossing an international border. The solution is simple - don't carry any data you don't want to give to the country you're entering.

This is 100% the right solution, and there's a pretty easy way to accomplish this, with iPhones at least: Back up to iCloud Wipe your phone Cross the border Restore from iCloud And yes, this may fail visiting China, because who knows what the Great Firewall will block.

Do note that restoring your phone can be a massive pain, even on a fast network it took me a couple of hours to fully restore it. There's also certain things you'll need to set up again; Apple Pay, mail passwords, ... So it's really not as simple as you make it out to be.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by Cerium »

nojvek wrote: post #405
DoreenMichele wrote: post #361

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Sadly, the motive there was probably he found her hot, would hit that, was aggravated at reading her Tinder messages and finding her even more hot because of it and was pissed off that there was no way in hell he would ever get a shot at being with her, so he felt some need to piss all over her, blame her for making him hot and bothered with no immediate means to get relief, yadda. This is an essential element of sit…

That’s sexual harassment. But then who’s gonna police the police?

Police police police police. [1]

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_linguistic_example_sen...

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