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New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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If this becomes the norm, then I can see a startup offering "convincing" email, browser history, social media profiles, photos and telephone call lists to present to customs.

Give those pesky 5 eyes poison data of a fictional life via a 2nd phone.

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post #4

It's troubling to watch one of the most amazing places on earth transform itself into a totalitarian purgatory. Access to physical phone/laptop is only the first step -- mark my words. Big Brother's bureaucrats are never satiated. Next, we will have demands for passwords and unrestricted access to : email, facebook, photo sharing, hacker news posts, social media, etc. I see sudden spike in the market for burner phone…

totalitarian purgatory

Nitpick: in Catholic dogma purgatory is a place of purification, those in purgatory know that they are there for a reason and only for a certain time, afterwards they enter heaven. Hell on the other hand, is for eternity and ugly. That's why the two are easily distinguished in their iconography, both involve imagery of flames, but souls in purgatory look joyful and those in hell look despondent.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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post #8

Is there a SaaS provider specializing in storing encrypted images of phones? The idea being that before you travel, you upload the encrypted image and wipe the phone, then after passing through customs you restore.

> before you travel, you upload the encrypted image and wipe the phone, then after passing through customs you restore That sounds like willfully evading customs, which is a serious crime.

I wipe some of my phones on regular basis and sometimes restore their data from backups (or not).

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post #4

It's troubling to watch one of the most amazing places on earth transform itself into a totalitarian purgatory. Access to physical phone/laptop is only the first step -- mark my words. Big Brother's bureaucrats are never satiated. Next, we will have demands for passwords and unrestricted access to : email, facebook, photo sharing, hacker news posts, social media, etc. I see sudden spike in the market for burner phone…

Factory reset and wipe your device before travel, and restore when you get to your hotel. I’m a privacy nut and while this is a disturbing trend there exist straightforward work arounds.

EDIT: I do this all the time and it’s not even remotely difficult or a big deal.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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post #8

Is there a SaaS provider specializing in storing encrypted images of phones? The idea being that before you travel, you upload the encrypted image and wipe the phone, then after passing through customs you restore.

> before you travel, you upload the encrypted image and wipe the phone, then after passing through customs you restore That sounds like willfully evading customs, which is a serious crime.

Have a citation? Because if that's the case, everyone is suggesting evading US customs, out in the open: https://www.google.com/search?q=wiping+phone+prior+to+custom...

It's even in Basecamp's international travel manual: https://github.com/basecamp/handbook/blob/master/internation...

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> before you travel, you upload the encrypted image and wipe the phone, then after passing through customs you restore That sounds like willfully evading customs, which is a serious crime.

I wipe some of my phones on regular basis and sometimes restore their data from backups (or not).

> I wipe some of my phones on regular basis and sometimes restore their data from backups

I do too. But if you systematically do that before going through customs, with the intention of denying a customs agent the data, that's a different intent. Intent matters when it comes to the law.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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> We're not going into 'the cloud'. We'll examine your phone while it's on flight mode This law isn't too bad as far as a compromise bill goes. The problem is a lack of accountability. Three fixes and I'd be okay with it: 1) Officials must document their reasons for finding a "reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing"; 2) Travellers should be able to challenge the search in a court proceeding to occur no later than close o…

Historically, I'm unaware of any country where you're entitled to require a court order before they can inspect your belongings when passing through a customs inspection at the border (and almost everywhere they don't need any suspicion of wrongdoing—they could, if they wanted, go through every paper everyone carried in, with the more or less sole limit of diplomatic bags).
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