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New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by maxxxxx »

aikah wrote: post #454
maxxxxx wrote: post #327

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You still haven't named a single tool or process.

A simple search on Google will yield plenty of results, if you are not willing to do that or even explain which solution you tried yourself and what failed, I'm not going to waste my time recommending an alternative solution to your problem either. In fact I just provided you with another solution which you didn't bother acknowledging.

I have done plenty of research and I couldn't find a solution to backup and restore an Android phone quickly without losing all kinds of data and settings.

I have used the built in backup to Google and noticed that restore takes many hours and a lot of apps lost data and settings. It took considerable effort to get back to normal. Definitely too much work to spend on my first day of vacation.

A burner phone may work but then you don't have access to all your data.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by [deleted] »

nojvek wrote: post #405
DoreenMichele wrote: post #361

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Sadly, the motive there was probably he found her hot, would hit that, was aggravated at reading her Tinder messages and finding her even more hot because of it and was pissed off that there was no way in hell he would ever get a shot at being with her, so he felt some need to piss all over her, blame her for making him hot and bothered with no immediate means to get relief, yadda. This is an essential element of sit…

That’s sexual harassment. But then who’s gonna police the police?

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Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by bacon_waffle »

WaylonKenning wrote: post #138
ravenstine wrote: post #64

I have been thinking of going back to live in NZ to be a software engineer there, but now... uh, no . Such a shame, as it's a really nice country with very smart people. Granted, it's been very "totalitarian" when it comes to immigration for a long time. Not that I don't think they have the right to do this, but when I went to live there with my kiwi girlfriend, I had to give them actual copies of letters she and I s…

As a New Zealander, I'd say we're unashamed in trying to balance the welfare of our citizens with growth opportunities from new immigrants. If you're likely to be a drain on the public healthcare system, then you're not likely to get permission to live here. Why? It's not fair to those people who have already paid into the system, to subsidise someone who hasn't. And we are picky. There's no visa lottery here. A poin…

> And we are picky. There's no visa lottery here. A points-based system with high thresholds.

As a practical matter, it seems that the immigration officer you wind up with does have an impact on your application's success. I was initially turned down for a Skilled Migrant visa (which I believe is what you're referring to) because I had work experience in IT, but a degree in electrical and computer engineering, and though the points from those combined were well over the higher threshold (and both on the skills shortage lists at the time, ~2010), they weren't in the same enough field according to my assigned officer. That meant that I had to pick which one I wanted to use, but neither by itself put me over the line... An expat friend of mine had a similar experience.

I don't mean this to be a slight on Immigration NZ, just that the process can feel a bit arbitrary and bureaucratic - like a lottery. It creates a chicken-and-egg problem too: in order to get a skilled migrant visa, you really want a job offer, but you're only going to get a job offer by coming here and looking around in person...

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by malnourish »

paradite wrote: post #320
malnourish wrote: post #301

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It wouldn't stop those things though, there will always be a weak point. What it would do is erode the rights and freedoms of law abiding citizens (something that terrorists seem to want ). Furthermore, if you want to stop drug trafficking, legalize them.

> It wouldn't stop those things though, there will always be a weak point. If that is your argument, then I don't think anyone can convince you. > What it would do is erode the rights and freedoms of law abiding citizens (something that terrorists seem to want). That's not how Wikipedia (and I myself) define terrorism: > Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means…

I can be convinced when the argument is good. I don't think a nebulous, "give up your privacy for some possible safety gains" is such an argument. I equate privacy with freedom, and I don't want to give up my freedom.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by malnourish »

paradite wrote: post #328
yholio wrote: post #316

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Actually, it would simply make terrorists avoid official border crossings. They could, for example, pay a human trafficker $2000 to get them over the border with Mexico. Of course, you would then request for brain scanning technology to be more widely employed and that brain scanners be installed in the subway, on buses, gas stations and any other place drug dealers and terrorists could happen to go by. I think we al…

You know I used to question why on earth would Trump want to "build a wall". But I think your comment (along with the previous comments) somehow made a good justification for it. Anyway, it is quite apparent that we have fundamentally different views on these issues, so let's agree to disagree and call it a day.

Unfortunately your views are fundamentally opposed to what most people (at the very least here) would define as freedom and civil rights.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by garyfirestorm »

refurb wrote: post #419
jrace wrote: post #370

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Try being a Canadian and going the other way!

As a Canadian who has gone both ways dozens of times, I’ve definitely gotten a much tougher treatment by the Canadian side. I had to bite my tongue to not say “I’m a citizen, you have to let me in.”

this comment made me sad. i am a south asian national, i do have a canadian tourist visa and was hoping to go watch F1 in 2019 in Montreal. reading all of this is probably going to change that plan :/

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Post by Drdrdrq »

mark212 wrote: post #357
HarryHirsch wrote: post #12

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totalitarian purgatory Nitpick: in Catholic dogma purgatory is a place of purification, those in purgatory know that they are there for a reason and only for a certain time, afterwards they enter heaven. Hell on the other hand, is for eternity and ugly. That's why the two are easily distinguished in their iconography, both involve imagery of flames, but souls in purgatory look joyful and those in hell look despondent…

sounds almost exactly like going through customs at the border.

Which one, purgatory or hell?

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by komali2 »

clubm8 wrote: post #447
komali2 wrote: post #408

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Vaguely recalling an article about how he created a push in new Zealand to bring in more techn workers, leveraging his wealth to pressure/incentivize the government, etc. Regardless, to your original point - a billionaire doing as he pleases does not affect my perception of a country.

>Vaguely recalling an article about how he created a push in new Zealand to bring in more techn workers Cool, well I've provided a source earlier showing it leaked due to investigative journalism. >to your original point - a billionaire doing as he pleases does not affect my perception of a country. You are free to perceive things however you want, but you may find it beneficial when interacting with others to ground…

? I fail to see the relationship between a billionaire getting away with something, and my sense of rule of law. It simply means new Zealand has equal rule of law power to every other first world country...

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by jboles »

dctoedt wrote: post #310
gdhbcc wrote: post #86

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All countries can demand it. They are sovereign. Are you asking which countries do demand it?

> All countries can demand it. They are sovereign. "Sovereign" is a fancy word that boils down to, we have enough police- and/or military power at our disposal that we can force you to do it.

No; you are never forced to visit foreign countries. It's more along the lines of: you want to visit, you play by our rules.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Post by maxxxxx »

thrower123 wrote: post #434
tokyodude wrote: post #400

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When I arrive at the airport I use my phone for maps, my travel info, my contacts, my reservations, busses, trains, taxis, uber, messages with people I'm coordinating with, my travel notes, etc... Or are you suggesting I should camp out in the airport for a few hours to restore my phone before I can figure out where I'm going and get ahold of my contacts? Oh let me guess. Your solution so to print those contacts and…

These are all problems you have created by over-dependance on a single point of failure. It's honestly kind of lazy not to take precautions, particularly when it's that easy - you've already listed out exactly what I'd suggest, and it's how people muddled along for decades in the before-times, more or less successfully. I would suggest learning how to read maps. It's really easy, especially in urban areas. Find the n…

What a condescending comment.
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