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A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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Yeah, sorry, didn't mean it as a dismissal at all. Was actually trying to support your claims. Good evening.

I realize that. I apologize for dumping on you.

All good, carry on, dump away :)

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When penicillin was first used to treat syphilis, thousands of cured schizophrenics were released from mental asylums. https://www.newsweek.com/diseases-mind-133263 I've apparently submitted this article three times, the last time 18 days ago. It's never gotten traction. I have a long history of viewing mood issues and the like as somatopsychic side effects of medical issues. I tend to ask my sciency son to "Look up…

> When penicillin was first used to treat syphilis, thousands of cured schizophrenics were released from mental asylums Syphilis itself produces psychosis and those "schizophrenics" were most likely never schizophrenics in the first place (shame on you Newsweek) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11186166 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1521109 If those diet based treatments work for you then that's great but, r…

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You can easily induce a 102 degree fever with a very hot bath.

Not for half an hour, unless you have someone patient with a kettle. I have seen one journal abstract where that that was used, but I don't know the details. There are better methods though, if you have the budget of a hospital or research center, such as IR lights filtered through water. There's also a article outlining various methods of inducing hyperthermia.

If you have an instant gas hot water you have fairly unlimited hot water. You could position the bath plug to leak at a set rate and continually add hot water to maintain an appropriate water temperature.

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Is anyone else interested in crowdfunding a scientific study to explore this link? This is not my area of expertise but as someone affected by this I would like to contribute to finding some answers even if it is at the home lab level.

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If you haven’t tried the Wim Hof method, please give it a go. It might not work for you as well as it has for others, but it won’t cost you anything to try it.

To heal depression or OCD or both?

Personally I believe it’s helpful for both. I don’t know what the mechanism is, but it has been effective for me. It feels something like distilled meditation (vipassana) ...

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Not to be rude, but it seems fairly likely the changes you observed from your change in diet are a result of placebo. The levels of rosemary and sage found in most foods probably aren't going to have much effect one way or another, let alone being an extremely potent anxiolytic. Beef and potatoes probably aren't going to reliably treat bipolar swings and suicidal ideation. Vitamin C probably isn't going to stop spont…

I am really burned out on hearing "It's placebo effect!" from people who firmly believe diet cannot possibly have a significant effect on (mental) health, but the power of believing it will make a difference absolutely can. So I'm just going to leave these two resources and quotes pulled from one of the blog posts I did about mediating the salt-lithium connection with diet: http://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/guide…

It seems that high amounts of salt are "bad for you" only in the context of low potassium. But most doctors either aren't aware of the fact that there needs to be a certain proportion of salt and potassium, or they don't bother telling patients because the doctors know most people won't eat anymore potassium-rich foods, so they just tell them to "eat less salt."

This video has some references to studies backing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJ-ev8Ial8

There's also this book that argues for the importance of salt in our food, of which I heard good things but haven't read:

https://www.amazon.com/Salt-Fix-Experts-Wrong-Eating-ebook/d...

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Something I ran across in a newsletter about medical research recently was that a doctor examining patients with treatment-resistant depression determined that there were (treatable) metabolic abnormalities apparent in cerebrospinal fluid. Normally, blood tests are all that is done to rule out such things, but that may not show the problem.

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When penicillin was first used to treat syphilis, thousands of cured schizophrenics were released from mental asylums. https://www.newsweek.com/diseases-mind-133263 I've apparently submitted this article three times, the last time 18 days ago. It's never gotten traction. I have a long history of viewing mood issues and the like as somatopsychic side effects of medical issues. I tend to ask my sciency son to "Look up…

> When penicillin was first used to treat syphilis, thousands of cured schizophrenics were released from mental asylums Syphilis itself produces psychosis and those "schizophrenics" were most likely never schizophrenics in the first place (shame on you Newsweek) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11186166 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1521109 If those diet based treatments work for you then that's great but, r…

Anecdotally, I've heard of and seen nursing home patients and other elderly people that have seriously altered mental states, with anger and/or disorientation, that recover immediately with antibiotics, where the medical people describe the infection as a UTI. And also in my experience, even once it's repeated a couple times, they can be obtuse about inferring the mental changes are a sign that they should treat with antibiotics.

I've also seen a cancer patient on chemo with symptoms that resemble some forms of psychosis, and of course that is someone who is immuno-compromised and susceptible to opportunistic infections.

So I think that probably syphilis is only one example of an infection that leads to an altered mental state, and there's no reason to assume that because something is treatable with penicillin, that is is necessarily syphilis.

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I've long suspected that my depression & OCD were caused by some immune response. It all started very suddenly when I had a very bad illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a doctor that believes me and is willing to do anything other than giving me the standard medications.

There is an autoimmune theory of schizophrenia. Excess histamine can also cause OCD-like symptoms. Look into megadose vitamin D3 (+ K2 MK-4 + magnesium). Memantine + selank. Lowering inflammation.

I don't know enough to evaluate this advice, but the word "histamine" caught my eye.

There are antidepressants that, as I understand it, are antihistamines. For example, imipramine. I wonder what it means if you have an adverse reaction to such a drug, and something resembling schizophrenia as well.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am really burned out on hearing "It's placebo effect!" from people who firmly believe diet cannot possibly have a significant effect on (mental) health, but the power of believing it will make a difference absolutely can. So I'm just going to leave these two resources and quotes pulled from one of the blog posts I did about mediating the salt-lithium connection with diet: http://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/guide…

It seems that high amounts of salt are "bad for you" only in the context of low potassium . But most doctors either aren't aware of the fact that there needs to be a certain proportion of salt and potassium, or they don't bother telling patients because the doctors know most people won't eat anymore potassium-rich foods, so they just tell them to "eat less salt." This video has some references to studies backing this…

My official diagnosis is atypical cystic fibrosis. CF medical clinics routinely include a dietitian on the medical team and the standard medical treatment includes prescribing a high fat, high salt, high calorie diet due to malabsorption and how it impacts salt processing and fat.

So a medical specialist whose official specialty was pulmatology prescribed me a high salt diet years ago.

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