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A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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> a growing body of literature suggesting that the immune system is involved in psychiatric disorders from depression to bipolar disorder

> Austrian physician Julius Wagner-Jauregg developed a method of deliberate infection of psychiatric patients with malaria to induce fever. Some of his patients died from the treatment, but many others recovered. He won a Nobel Prize in 1927.

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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Thoughtbytes: > a growing body of literature suggesting that the immune system is involved in psychiatric disorders from depression to bipolar disorder > Austrian physician Julius Wagner-Jauregg developed a method of deliberate infection of psychiatric patients with malaria to induce fever. Some of his patients died from the treatment, but many others recovered. He won a Nobel Prize in 1927.

I don't have the links to the studies, however function in some set of autistic children would have temporary improved capabilities when a fever was induced in them.

Quick Google search has some results including https://iancommunity.org/ssc/fever-effect-curious-phenomenon...

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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Thoughtbytes: > a growing body of literature suggesting that the immune system is involved in psychiatric disorders from depression to bipolar disorder > Austrian physician Julius Wagner-Jauregg developed a method of deliberate infection of psychiatric patients with malaria to induce fever. Some of his patients died from the treatment, but many others recovered. He won a Nobel Prize in 1927.

Julius Wagner-Jauregg specifically treated neurosyphilis, an infectious disease, not just any ”psychiatric” disorder. That makes it perhaps less surprising that activating the immune system should have an effect. Today neurosyphilis is treated with antibiotics.

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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I've long suspected that my depression & OCD were caused by some immune response. It all started very suddenly when I had a very bad illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a doctor that believes me and is willing to do anything other than giving me the standard medications.

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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I've long suspected that my depression & OCD were caused by some immune response. It all started very suddenly when I had a very bad illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a doctor that believes me and is willing to do anything other than giving me the standard medications.

If you haven’t tried the Wim Hof method, please give it a go. It might not work for you as well as it has for others, but it won’t cost you anything to try it.

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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Reminds me of the surprising cause of narcolepsy - not anything sleep cycle related, energetic as one might expect but auto-immune causing the body to periodically attack its own wakefulness hormones producers.

Unfortunately all of our immune system tools are very coarse even when doing something groundbreaking as cancer immunotherapy which is basically farming ones we know attack the cancer and reinserting them - very labor intensive for something individualized with highly educated workers.

It almost makes one wish for reverse vaccination to specify things as harmless - until you realize how horribly exploitable it would be by nature - let alone anybody twisted enough to use it for biological weaponry.

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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I've long suspected that my depression & OCD were caused by some immune response. It all started very suddenly when I had a very bad illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a doctor that believes me and is willing to do anything other than giving me the standard medications.

Technically mental trauma could have done so as well - which you probably heard dozens of times. Even if a doctor believed you I am not sure what they could do that wouldn't be extremely ill advised. Immunosuppressants would be tough to justify even if it was a certain cure instead of a highly tentative one.

I know it is a frustrating situation to be in. Like I know that oral general anesthesia would help me for bloodwork given a severe phobia (multiple panic attacks while maxed oral dose and too tranqed to walk normally bad) but even without asthma and weight the risk would be too off-kilter to do without qualifying as malpractice. Let alone insurance and expenses. Unfortunately the field seems to select for people who see it as a nonissue.

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I've long suspected that my depression & OCD were caused by some immune response. It all started very suddenly when I had a very bad illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a doctor that believes me and is willing to do anything other than giving me the standard medications.

I treat my treatment resistant depression by inducing 101+ fever for half an hour each day. I started when I had to stop an allergy to the EMSAM patch.

There are also medications that you might not have heard of. If you want, I can write more when I'm not on mobile.

Re: A bone-marrow transplant treated a patient’s leukemia – and his schizophrenia

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I've long suspected that my depression & OCD were caused by some immune response. It all started very suddenly when I had a very bad illness. Unfortunately I have yet to find a doctor that believes me and is willing to do anything other than giving me the standard medications.

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